Apple letter about FBI
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- nb1
What is the benefit to society if the FBI gets access to the phone? If we are truly risking the future of security, we should be getting something in return, right?
The guy is dead. What "justice" is the FBI looking for? Is there really anything on that phone that is going to prevent any future crime? Not likely.
- <bainbridge
- They are hoping for numbers/info of acquaintances or other suspectsdbloc
- Right. So they can track them and search their house? 3 weeks later? After this is all over the news? Unlikely to prevent any crime.nb
- nb1
I love how these companies (Apple, Microsoft, Google, etc) are refusing to hand over customer data while claiming they're doing it in the interests of the customers.
You know that behind closed doors the companies are saying, "That's OUR fucking data. We own it. Do you know how hard it was to get everyone to give us all their personal data? It was fucking crazy hard. We're not giving it away."
- < Exactly!utopian
- haha what? i mean it's been made clear they have turned over data, but that's unrelated obviouslyprophetone
- Yes, they have turned over specific data and only when required by court order. That's not the same as giving access to all the data.nb
- Ok well maybe we have diff defs of ALL data. They don't have ALL of mine. What they do have is anything on cloud.prophetone
- I think any reasonable knows that Apple et al are terrified of lost profits, trust. But the side they present is no less true, this is bad for users.prophetone
- Of course it's presented this way, humans could care less about warnings, it's only when the prob is coming through the front door that they fnlly pay attn.prophetone
- I mean i think everyone knows why a Facebook is worth billions as a free service... user data. Of course they have a death grip on it.prophetone
- The future is crazy yo!prophetone
- Yeah, I mean, they are providing data when legally required. That's very different than "giving it away".nb
- georgesIII-1
good apple good,
but sadly according to prism clusterfuck, you've already been added and believing NSA can not crack an iphone is wishful thinking,honestly they can syphon the entire worldwide traffic, crack every system known to man, infiltrate nuclear reactors with stuxnet,
I like apple but hate when they play on the gullibility of the zombies ( I'm not saying this, NSA is)
“Steve Jobs would’ve rather died than give into that, even though he had a lot of friends at the NSA,” he told Cult of Mac, shaking his head. “Microsoft caved in first, then everyone else. Steve would’ve just never done it.”
http://www.spiegel.de/internatio…
http://www.cultofmac.com/231714/…
http://venturebeat.com/2013/09/0…
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..with stuxmet. but not crack an iphone's encription,..georgesIII
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- instrmntl1
FBI ASKS U2 HOW THEY MANAGED TO GET INTO EVERYONE’S IPHONE
http://www.bfnn.co.uk/fbi-asks-u…
- dbloc0
- Oh noes!! Please mr Trunt, don't leave us!!Projectile
- What an asshat...not single fuck given!utopian
- Sam singsomg
- A single lost customer. Apple are surely doomed and quaking in their collective loafers at the lost sale.face_melter
- 20020
- County officials tried to unlock the phone and reset the password
- This essentially locked the phone, the phone would have backed up automatically if they didnt try
- Once it's in reset password mode, unless correct password is entered, it will not automatically backup apple's server
- Existing backup uploaded to apple's server has been provided to FBI
- Apple sent engineer to help to unlock the phone but it was too late
- Only option is for apple to provide firmware update (allowing brute force without 80ms delay, unlimited tries and direct to device) and this only works up to iphone 5
- iphone 6 and up has the certificate built in to the hardware hence no firmware update will ever change anything once the phone is locked
- FBI wants apple to stop making hardware infused security measures
- uan0
- Likely taken out because it was an assumption instead of fact - which happens at NYT all the time2002
- Wonder if it happens at Bloomberg too. We will never know. I'm writing this eating a snack on the 6th floor watching Charlie Rose in a live taping.monospaced
- It happens on all news organizations - question is if they publish a note or not2002
- omg0
- after 10 tries it erases everything if this is selected in the settings.dbloc
- Also a time limit if you enter to many wrong guesses. Pissed the fbi off.monospaced
- even if tries were unlimited, it would take 5.5 years to try all combo with 80ms delay2002
- Ok rain man.monospaced
- sorry about your mental ability.2002
- Lol, play nice boys, we have a common enemyterry_cloth
- nb-1
Strange to think that if he had owned the 5S instead of the 5C, the FBI would be able to access it, via his finger.
- I mean strange in that (in this case) the 4-digit-code proved more secure than the fingerprint sensor.nb
- dead fingers cant unlock2002
- Pictures of fingers can unlock.
http://www.tomsguide…face_melter - Dead fingers can't unlock? Interesting!nb
- terry_cloth0
Somebody posted a snowden relayed post up there and it brings to mind how when the sowden leak revealed that the terrys were using yaho mail and that the good old boys saw everything they said, the terrys immediately stopped using that mode of communication. If ifones are backdoored then the terrys will move to the next and the only people getting compromised are political dissidents. Tech false flag shit yall
- *relatedterry_cloth
- yurimon?2002
- I've got love for the kid but c'mon now, you know it's me cause my tenses agreeterry_cloth
- gilgamush?utopian
- trolltopian?terry_cloth
- omg0
- you guys really think NSA can't unlock any phones out there? sigh...georgesIII
- Yes actually. They apparently have some pretty sub par staff and are finally realizing it. Time to hire some hackers that fo drugs.monospaced