Where is the good work? Is everything shit?
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- bainbridge0
Most people in the world do not like their jobs.
That's why they call it work.
- yurimon0
one word that will say it all.
"Bansky"
your welcome.. k/
- omahadesigns0
Sometimes agency = higher pay and shorter hours.
Life is short. If you hate going to work, that is one thing. But if you have a good job that is easy but boring and pays for a nice home and life, that is just the American dream.
- Claymantis0
Yea thanks for the words. I'm happy that I can even do graphics design and get paid for it. But I just feel there is so much crappy work and the only people I've met that do great work are freelancers. Everyone who works for agencies seems to get sucked into a big shitty void. I guess if I do more proactive work and work really hard - things might work out. I've been so jaded by being laid off over and over - and never given the chance to work on amazing things. I've done great work but not amazing work.
- whinger0
Regarding the slave comment above, I was going to reply in the side thing, but it doesn't allow enough words.
I have lurked on here since pretty much the beginning and rarely comment, but what I have noticed over the years is that the vast majority of you are genuinely miserable at your jobs. Raybandana wanted to know how to get better work — and in my experience there is only one way. Earn it. There always will detractors to working for something, I won't be changing your opinion, nor will you change mine in that regard. All I can do is tell Raybandana how I got to where I am. I love my job, and the majority of the work I do is pretty fun. Yes, there are other ways to get there, and I'm sure you can do it without earning it; but that is the way I did it and is the only path I know. Your mileage may vary.
- whinger0
Keep your head down, do good work, do more good work, do your own good work, and keep busy. It's a marathon, not a sprint. If you can last it out, things tend to work out. The person who said it depends on who you know is wrong — it's how easy you are to get along with, how good your work is, how little you bitch about things, how often you have results. Make your client, peers, coworkers look good, and you'll never be without work.
- forever a good slave...omg
- lol totally.Raybandana
- Slave? If you think that is slavery then your life must be remarkableGnash
- Raybandana0
I figured most other designers would say everything is shit.
I guess its alot of luck and being really talented.- You only get talented through hard work.omahadesigns
- geahRaybandana
- Yup. Hard Work = Luck
breadlegz
- breadlegz0
Sagmeister Walsh Raybandana?
- Maaku0
First year in a big ad agency?
Cannes season is around the corner, have a sit and enjoy the show.Hopefully you'll get to work on case studies and see for yourself how full of shit that industry is :)
- hahah no not my first - just first full time at a big agency.Raybandana
- doesnotexist0
gotta show good work to get good work
- omahadesigns0
What "great stuff" do you want to work on? What's your dream job?
- omahadesigns0
What's a "digital designer" exactly?
Large clients play it safe more often and require bigger teams but have bigger budgets.
Unless you're well known for a cool style, most clients aren't going to come to you for your "unique vision".
- also need a track record for breaking the rule while making bank. u needs to be like banskyyurimon
- organicgrid0
If you really would like to great exceptional if not great work, you will need to do one of the following and or both:
• Self-Initiated Projects
• Pitch Projects
Great projects will more than likely never fall upon your lap, until you have a track record of creating beautiful work.Self-Initiated Design Projects
http://www.flygirlblog.com/2014/…How to pitch for design work, and win it!
http://www.creativebloq.com/how-…
- breadlegz0
This might be useful:
- monospaced0
I don't think it's wrong to at least show the unchosen directions, the ones you presented to the client that were the best design you could do. It's not a bad idea to show the one they chose too, and how they compare, like a case study. This way you show how you are capable of good design, and how you are able to meet a client's needs.
- Thanks mono. Good advice. I'm surprised - you didnt tell me to go fuck myself and jump of a bridge.Raybandana
- that copy is flawless. dyam.yurimon
- Yea its beautiful. Bravo. Amazing.Raybandana
- That last comma was arguably unnecessaryreanimate
- Go fuck yourself and jump off a bridgecannonball1978
- reanimate0
Also self initiated doesn't have to mean made up. Maybe there is a project or business idea that you've always wanted to pursue. If you are serious about it, take steps to make your life less busy or move to a more low cost environment to give yourself more free time.
- Yea good advice. I'm living in a city thats insanely expensive tho.Raybandana
- Toronto is insanely expensive?monospaced
- I'm in Dubai now - sucka.Raybandana
- What a fucking coincidence. SO IS CLAYMANTIS! What are the chances? http://www.qbn.com/t…monospaced
- http://www.qbn.com/t…monospaced
- I don't know who that is? What are you talking aboutRaybandana
- How the guy you say isn't you also happens to have moved to Dubai in the same exact week as you from Toronto. Uncanny.monospaced
- Life is weird. I dunno - lots of people move to dubai.Claymantis
- Oh, so I see you are now logged in on your other account. Surprised to see Clay found this side thread.monospaced
- I dont know who claymantis isClaymantis
- dude... c'mon, if you're gonna reply at least do it with your other accountmonospaced
- obviously you meant to write that as Raybandana... LOLmonospaced
- reanimate0
I don't see anything wrong with self-initiated work, since it shows what you are capable of without the client messing it up.
One of my design professors once said "I always know what is best for the client." To be honest his work was kind of shit, but this may be true for many people.
- Raybandana0
this is my old painting work - http://postimg.org/image/pxki7a5…
- monospaced0
Hey Claymantis! Long time, buddy.