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- inteliboy0
I'm with detritus. Come here to see interesting science news, get bogged down with boring backwards commentary and memes on religion vs science. Seriously fuck off with that brain numbing nonsense.
- FYI, this thread topic is about how Science isn't a belief system.monospaced
- though I guess that's the power of a troll like yurimon.inteliboy
- yeah true, my bad. i dunno. point still stands.inteliboy
- wordmonospaced
- the first post in this thread is unfortunate. let it be a SCIENCE thread. the rest can go in the awful 'religion' thread.sarahfailin
- unfortunate or not, this thread is exactly about debating it being a belief system. Sorrymonospaced
- Morning_star0
- Yes, you really do.
- No one is making you read this
- What am I presupposing?
- I don't live in the US
- The amount of graphic design discussed around here is at best 25% of the conversation. I'd guess it's a lot lower, just look at the threads.- I came here to read about science. strange that, i know.detritus
- Not Graphic Design? Surely you'll achieve nothing by reading science on a graphic deign forum.Morning_star
- please note thread title.detritus
- I'm not the one posting moronic memes like one at the top of this page.Morning_star
- detritus0
No, I really don't — I'm just fed up with reading crap like yours which asserts bullshit derived by your own presupposition.
Leave the US sometime, you'll realise the majority of the civilised world manages to reconcile science and belief, and where not, the respective parties shut up and mind their own business.
None of you — nor I — are going to achieve anything by bleating into the void on an ostensibly graphics design forum.
- Oh. God.
You're a Brit?
Oh. God.
detritus - oh fucking Godfuck.
*weeps*detritus - Would you like a cup of tea?Morning_star
- design forum?moldero
- Oh. God.
- Morning_star0
'Who gives a fuck, seriously?'
You, quite evidently.
- detritus0
Who gives a fuck, seriously?
This is a nonalogue that goes nowhere other than confirming and entrenching various proponents' existant beliefs; it is a nonalogue tha the vast sway of vested parties don't give a fuck about, so why bother?
Your assertion that the Western 'crucible of science' (such vacuous bilge!) is in reverse or decline is not in any shape or form supported by external actualities, so quite what you're hoping to achieve here with your broadband transmission of your narrow band perspective, I don't know.
Shut up, all of you.
- Morning_star0
When science first developed in the West, it thought of itself merely as a tool to explore the natural world. It did not pour scorn upon religion; indeed, scientists were overwhelmingly religious believers (as many still are).
Science should essentially takes us wherever the evidence leads. In modern times, however, science has given rise to 'scientism', the belief that science can answer all the questions of human existence. This is not so.
For instance, Science cannot explain the origin of the universe. Yet it now presumes to do so and as a result it has descended into irrationality.
There is no evidence for this whatever and no logic to it. After all, if people say God could not have created the universe because this gives rise to the question "Who created God?", it follows that if scientists say the universe started with a big bang, this prompts the further question "What created the bang?"
As a result of such arrogance, the West - the crucible of reason - is turning the clock back to a pre-modern age of obscurantism, dogma and secular witch-hunts.
Far from upholding reason, science itself has become unreasonable.- Religion is utter cock but science will I eventually merge with spirituality as we understand more about itset
- There may be some truth in that.Morning_star
- I think soset
- GeorgesIV0
This thread is triggering some repressed memories
can the mods ban it,
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for science...
- utopian1
- science or religion + politics = mind control..yurimon
- nah just religionutopian
- Religion is for peeps that can not think for themselves.utopian
- religion and science can be used for mind control. Or any ideologyyurimon
- look at the whole global warming fiasco, perfect example. agenda 21 n green fascism. look at ityurimon
- you think global warming is propaganda? dude, it's pure science, and religion offers NOTHING on the subjectmonospaced
- The argument against global warming is more twisted and complex than the scientific reality of global warming.IRNlun6
- yeah, but the twist of the issue is agenda based politics,yurimon
- what the fuck is religion's agenda when it comes to global warming, yurimon!?monospaced
- polital or otherwise? they're the ones twisting itmonospaced
- Which is exactly the point yuri. The science behind is very straight forward. The agenda to dismiss it brings basic science into question.IRNlun6
- ... into question.IRNlun6
- science in theory is supposed to be unbiased in idea but it used in politics to manipulate..yurimon
- example is the whole global warming fiasco. It was used in politics to impose and benefit.yurimon
- just like an original religious premise is to be one with god or what ever. taken to manipulate for same ends..yurimon
- so you can use science to manipulate. you can use religion to manipulate. etcyurimon
- The science is there that proves global warming exists, regardless of the politics or manipulation as you call it.IRNlun6
- The question is whether we're going to at least attempt to not make it worse.IRNlun6
- Or take the 1% chance that it's a big hoax and do nothing.IRNlun6
- WHAT MANIPULATION is science behind global warming causing?monospaced
- global warming theory was debunked.yurimon
- yurignorance...it's a belief system.utopian
- ApeRobot0
- Hahaha, that guy is douche. throwing some filter politics into the Nintendo bias to indoctrinate some kids.yurimon
- 'Common BELIEF fallacy' - quite a lot of that going on in this thread by Dawkins sheep.Morning_star
- are you saying you don't believe in evolution?monospaced
- Evolution isn't a common belief fallacy, it's backed by tomes of data, growing daily.monospaced
- Unlike religion, which has no data and is followed like the sheep led by a non-existent shepherdmonospaced
- The first person I thought of while watching this video > Yurimonutopian
- "are you saying you don't believe in evolution?" No. I said DAWKINS not DARWIN. Although you can thank Alfred Russel Wallace for the theory NOT Darwin.Morning_star
- Russel Wallace for the theory NOT Darwin.Morning_star
- If you like darwin, you must love eugenics...yurimon
- Whilst Darwin was a supporter of eugenics it doesn't mean that someone can't be selective about editing out the less palatable ideas.Morning_star
- palatable ideas.Morning_star
- yurimon0
- all his wack claims are completely unsupported by any evidence whatsoevermonospaced
- his entire theory goes against the very basic laws of physicsmonospaced
- why is this in the science thread?Gnash
- it's yurimon, he's trying to say that since one guy got science wrong that the whole scientific community is questionablemonospaced
- a pathetic attempt to bring it down to faith/religion's level, I supposemonospaced
- Kinda interesting, but not from a science pov. According the wiki ""Velikovsky hoped... that the merit of his ideas would be evaluated on the basis of his comparative mythology and use of literary sources alone"Gnash
- ... evaluated on the basis of his comparative mythology and use of literary sources alone"Gnash
- with mono.utopian
- interesting of exploration. its always multi disciplined scientist get the shaft. some aspects of his ideas are good.yurimon
- haha, name one aspect that you think is goodmonospaced
- Also he is getting a revisit because of electric theory of the universe is picking up credyurimon
- the accounts of natural disasters on humanity from texts from all around the world, he is aligned with electric theory of the planetsyurimon
- this is fucking stupidscarabin
- I know anything that doesnt fit your style is stupid...yurimon
- once again, wrong about something you "know"scarabin
- all about ze jews.ApeRobot
- jesus is disappointmoldero
- utopian0
50 Interesting Facts About the Earth
Researchers calculate the age of the Earth by dating both the oldest rocks on the planet and meteorites that have been discovered on Earth (meteorites and Earth formed at the same time, when the solar system was forming). Their findings? Earth is about 4.54 billion years old.
- utopian0
- http://i.imgur.com/H…pablo28
- obviously you konw nothing about what happened lol. tardy to the party.yurimon
- you don't "know" either, you just have your beliefsmonospaced
- Science is AWESOME. Let's not forget Joseph Mengele and his awesome work in the name of science. And Oppenheimer and his oh-so-creative discoveries; and those happy chappies who invent new chemicals to burn kids for longer in syria. And the deliberate infection of whole communities with STDs in the name of science. And those ethical bohemoths the drug companies. Awesome.For fucks sake, it's about the inadequacies of human beings. There are ALWAYS those humans that exploit, mame, murder, steal and destroy in the name of something.Morning_star
- his oh-so-creative discoveries; and those happy chappies who invent new chemicals to burn kids for longer in syria. And the deliberate infection of whole communities with STDs in the name of science. And those ethical bohemoths the drug companies. Awesome.For fucks sake, it's about the inadequacies of human beings. There are ALWAYS those humans that exploit, mame, murder, steal and destroy in the name of something.Morning_star
- deliberate infection of whole communities with STDs in the name of science. And those ethical bohemoths the drug companies. Awesome.For fucks sake, it's about the inadequacies of human beings. There are ALWAYS those humans that exploit, mame, murder, steal and destroy in the name of something.Morning_star
- companies. Awesome. For fucks sake, it's about the inadequacies of human beings. There are ALWAYS those humans that exploit, mame, murder, steal and destroy in the name of something.Morning_star
- exploit, mame, murder, steal and destroy in the name of something.Morning_star
- no one saying is not awesome. these logical fallacy posts suckyurimon
- I shall defeat thee phantom internet atheist!mrrgl
- Technically, science is also flying into the buildingcannonball1978
- yurimon0
https://www.sciencemag.org/conte…
Just think: The challenges of the disengaged mind
we found that participants typically did not enjoy spending 6 to 15 minutes in a room by themselves with nothing to do but think...
- Morning_star0
Despite persistent reports of such experiences, as well as a growing body of experimental evidence, the notion that the mind might have extended properties is considered by some to be scientifically implausible. EM (Extended Mind) seems to violate core assumptions of the neurosciences as well as physical laws about the structure of space and time.
The apparent violation of existing theories has led many to assume that EM experiences are best explained as coincidence, illusion or delusion.
However, as previous concepts about the nature of space, time and causality shifted with the development of general relativity and quantum mechanics, ideas about the properties and capacities of consciousness have also begun to shift. These shifts are now accelerating because of rising evidence that basic characteristics of living systems (e.g., magnetoreception and photosynthesis) are mediated by quantum effects.
This radically challenges previous assumptions about the plausibility of EM.
- Morning_star0
How do they decide what a crank is?
- it's overwhelmingly obvious to anyone even slightly educated and rationalmonospaced
- I don't understand how you could possibly be so certain that YOU understand the universe enough to make that assessment.Morning_star
- Or are you just following the crowd?
Morning_star - I don't claim to. But I have some very trusted sources. Better than trusting pedophiles who worship a naked man on a stick.monospaced
- You (or your 'contacts') seem to be under the delusion that it's a black and white argument. And that the whole of humanity has chosen either Science or Christianity. They're not even comparable, let alone the only possible positions to hold. Dumb as a brick.Morning_star
- chosen either Science or Christianity. They're not even comparable, let alone the only possible positions to hold. Dumb as a brick.Morning_star
- as a brick.Morning_star
- Exactly, they're not comparable because religion is a belief system and Science isn't.monospaced
- My "contacts" are the great scientific community that posts its results publiclymonospaced
- I agree to an extent. You're right about religion, but science can be as dogmatic as religion, especially those that insist the only universe is a materialist one.Morning_star
- only universe is a materialist one.Morning_star
- note to self: take morning_star off kegger list.josimar
- I don't know if that's good or bad : ) What/Who/Where is a Kegger?Morning_star
- Oh - "A party at which a keg of beer is present._ - That's a shame, i get the BEST drugs. ; )Morning_star
- Pardon me internet argument, but i have a small contribution, when science adopts dogma, which it often does, it has failedmrrgl
- Inspired by recent reading about Miasma theory which dominated study of disease, for the last 50 years right in the face of contradictory evidencemrrgl
- face of clear evidence to the contrary (contagion theory). Point is, 50 years, best biologists in the world laughed off evidencemrrgl
- that (many) disease are caused by other living creatures, regarded it as unworthy of consideration
mrrgl - that being said, that it can happen on a huge scale in a way that the people involved have no clue how stupid they're beingmrrgl
- being... present scientific evidence, repeatable experiments, data, records... we've had about 50 years of organized research to prove mental/physical extended knowledge stuff, and I think that we can move forward at this pointmrrgl
- move forward at this pointmrrgl
- being... present scientific evidence, repeatable experiments, data, records... we've had about 50 years of organized research to prove mental/physical extended knowledge stuff, and I think that we can move forward at this pointmrrgl
- organized research to prove mental/physical extended knowledge stuff, and I think that we can move forward at this pointmrrgl
- Lol wut?monospaced
- scarabin0
- few key words "promise" "potential" and "may" but keep it comin.yurimon
- few key words missing "faith" "God" and "guns" but keep it comin.utopian
- i see "promise" once and "may" twice. your point?scarabin
- strong evidence compels people to say things like "may" and "possibly," that's how it worksmonospaced
- unlike traditional belief systems that have no evidence and still have teh audacity to make claims about truthmonospaced
- i love how threatening this shit is to you, yuriscarabin
- and it's never gonna get better because science will continue marching on, continually making discoveries, while you sit there masturbating over the same tired shitscarabin
- masturbating over the same tired shitscarabin
- while god watches him masturbates and judges him, because that's how god rollsmonospaced
- not threatening. i dont worship science utopianismyurimon
- what DO you worship, yurimon? it's gotta be somethin'monospaced
- he'll never say because he's spinelessscarabin
