Apple Event (October)
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- animatedgif0
Keep the screens dumb
Make the shit under them smarter
- animatedgif0
@ernexbcn
The part that would make an Apple TV experience compelling is all software and service. There is no point to stick this inside a £3000 screen when they probably wont want to be supporting that hardware 8 years down the line seen as people don't buy TVs every 2-4 years.
The hardware required is absolutely commodity level shit, it's just a little bit of storage, network access and a H264 decoder. Otherwise it's all just software. There is absolutely no point sticking and expensive screen and chassis to this hardware unless people will pay the premium for one on a regular basis.
- animatedgif0
^
How often do people buy new TVs?- well, nowadays a TV is bought every 3-5 years and most of them don't even last longermekk
- fadein110
@animated - they would release a TV set because they could kill that marketplace selling apple designed TV's - a true smart TV beyond the feeble offerings out now. Why would they do an mp3 player? why would they do a tablet? why would they do a laptop? they didn't invent any of these...
- design is pretty key to the most prominent object in your living space. and who beats them at that?fadein11
- good pointmonospaced
- Hombre_Lobo0
ooo ive not watched the ipad air video yet, this should be a laugh!
- Hombre_Lobo0
am i the only one who really doesn't care for OS updates?
Ive got mountain lion at the moment and its fine. no bugs so far.the thought of this mavericks doesnt interested me at all as my current OS does everything i need. i cant see any advantages to it. There dont appear to be any stand out new features.
Miguex posted this a while back -
"It sucks, but I rely on my computer for work. I show up for a show and something crashes... I pretty much loose my job, so I only update if its absolutely necessary"I feel exactly the same. I dont want to update as i can rely on my current OS to get my work done.
- I feel the same with OS X and with the iPhone. A new thing every year are small incremental changes.ernexbcn
- Exactly, small updates for an OS that wasn't really a problem before. Changes are good, considering.monospaced
- luddititisfadein11
- ernexbcn0
"A lot of times, people don't know what they want until you show it to them"
El Jobso.
- ernexbcn0
@animatedgif how can you know what those TV will be.
Did you foresee the iPhone and the iPad as well? then you should work for Apple on R&D.
- Maybe I should because they clearly agree with meanimatedgif
- animatedgif0
Why on earth would they release a TV set?
It would just be a screen with an internal Apple Tv, whats the fucking point?
They'll just focus on making the Apple TV better and let someone else provide the dumb screen to connect it to
"I find navigating my cable box/dvr clunky and painfully slow. Channels/titles are difficult to find"
Well that's because they're both obsolete mediums in industries controlled by dinosaurs, recorded real time broadcasts to a hard disk? So fucking retarded when programs can just be sent out already as digital files instead.- < bingomonospaced
- this is my thoughts exactly. Why enter the fucking mess of TV choice (sizes, prices, 3D) when you only need to focus onESKEMA
- the ATV box, that connects to every TV out there, and some very verity expensive, thatESKEMA
- no one will replace anytime soon.ESKEMA
- ha - like saying why release a computer - its just a case with a mac in it! apple tvs would sell like crazyfadein11
- not sure they would sell like crazy because they would be fucking the roof expensive. It's a TV.ESKEMA
- People want them to work better not cost the triple. An ATV box solves this. No need for the screen headaches.ESKEMA
- @fade11 your analogy is completely stupid. What does it even mean?ESKEMA
- @eskema - you are an idiot - move on.fadein11
- utopian0
soon.
- aliastime0
^ Really? I find navigating my cable box/dvr clunky and painfully slow. Channels/titles are difficult to find, and I only use a fraction of the buttons on my remote. Not to mention the button layout of most universal remotes is random as hell.
- in reply to chossyaliastime
- We are agreeing. Cable is clunky and anything but streamlined.monospaced
- sorry, though you were replying to memonospaced
- and I only watch a fraction of content that I'm paying foraliastime
- precisely... the change will happen only when we can get what we want, when we want, but cable won't give it upmonospaced
- monospaced0
Except for a line in Isaac's Jobs bio about how he had cracked the TV problem, there really isn't any evidence "from Apple" that a TV is in the works at all. Analysts and speculators love to insist that that's what they think they're doing, but that shouldn't be confused with what they're actually doing.
That being said, the way we consume media is changing so fast. Going online and finding video on-demand, streaming and downloading, is the new trend. Cable is antiquated, it is limited, and it is overpriced. Finding a medium between the two is definitely the holy grail of future media, but it's going to be a huge effort to wrangle the content from the cold, strong greedy grip of the cable empires.
- People are willing to pay, but only if access is simple and streamlined. Cable is anything but right now.monospaced
- who said a tv as such? I was thinking more a platform and method of delivering and viewing content. TV schedules will not exist for much longer.fadein11
- will not exist for much longer.fadein11
- we are agreeingmonospaced
- chossy0
I'm not really sure what is wrong with TV at the moment? It is probably one type of media that has developed and adapted incredibly well over the years.
- utopian0
When is that Apple TV going to really kick in?
- ernexbcn0
The next big thing are supposedly the TV sets, I'm intrigued at what they have planned for that. Hopefully they come out in 2014.
Other than that, I don't care about a watch but I when the iPad came out I thought I won't have a use for it until I was given an iPad 3 as a birthday present and I can't stop using the thing.
- monospaced0
@fadein - Ive said in Sept:
• ”I would love, love, love to show you what we are working on now, but I’d lose my job.”
• ”I’ve been here for years, and the way we’re working is the same. Nothing’s changed in terms of that. We’re trying to solve problems in terms of future products that are incredibly complex, whose resolutions have no precedent.”
- monospaced0
Well, they will be, if what Tim says is true:
"We are really excited about the upcoming releases of iOS 7 and OS X Mavericks, and we are laser-focused and working hard on some amazing new products that we will introduce in the fall and across 2014."- iPad Phat?
MacBook AirBiscuit?
fadein11 - only kidding - cannot wait to see what they are going to do with TV if thats one of them... Television as a medium needs an Apple kick up the arsefadein11
- an Apple kick up the arse.fadein11
- Hopefully it's not a TV or a Watch or anything people are predicting. That would defeat the purpose.monospaced
- They can keep on 'refining" their lineup and focus on entirely new marketsmonospaced
- iPad Phat?
- fadein110
^ okay they have 1 year to release something new.
- or else? and then? what?monospaced
- ;) you guys are funnymonospaced
- aliastime0
^
"investors are still waiting for Apple to launch another revolutionary product"Apple isn't going to release a new product just to release something. There was a six year gap between the first iPod and the iPhone. Three years later came the iPad, which wasn't a giant leap from what the iPhone is.
My point is people don't realize that "revolutionary" products don't simply get created year after year. It's a shitload of work to recognize a common problem, go through endless rounds of R&D, then actually release a product that not only solves that problem, but is affordable and easy to use.
- But Apple has dirt cheap child slave labor in China, what gives?utopian
- finally, someone who sees it like I domonospaced