H&FJ Webfonts
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- autonoma0
@tank02 - Hate comes with the territory. It wasn't until I actually joined the team that I fully understood the number of man hours and labor that went into building the service and creating these fonts. It's staggering.
- utopian0
Purchasing fonts in general has become too fucking confusing to figure out.... to embed them?, buy web font?, but screen font?, buy desktop font?, licensed font?, limited licensed font?, etc...
- ESKEMA0
To say that it's a bit pricey is not hate, it's a comparison to alternatives. We would already have used it in projects if it was available at the time.
That said, and because of it being pricey in comparison to already established alternatives (Typekit and Fonts.com), it will have a hard time gaining traction from the little clients, the clients that are just using different fonts on their websites. But it will for sure have the bigger ones that require their exact fonts on board, and more crafty, attention-to-details-studios with budgets for it.
I welcome it. It's awesome to have the option available if needed.
And it looks like a lot of effort went into it. It's great to see H&FJ commit that hard to make typography better for the web.
- 5timuli0
Autonoma... hypothetical question:
If a company with 15-20 billion page views/month wanted to use your service, how much could we be talking (ballpark figure)?
- autonoma0
@5timuli — A company with pageviews in the billions would need to contact sales directly. I've no idea what an account like that would run, but I can assure you that it goes beyond charging by the pageview.
- autonoma0
Made a video explaining Small Caps usage:
- ESKEMA0
^^ 1 Question autonoma.
That vid intrigued me.. Does it load the font twice just for the Small Caps or the software can be smart about it?
- autonoma0
@ESKEMA — Not sure I understand the question...
- _niko0
way too pricy given that there are so many workarounds and hacks.
Foundry's are doing it to themselves given how ridiculously overpriced some of them are.
At the end of the day Typophiles and designers might be able to tell the minuscule differences but the general public could care less.
- ESKEMA0
In the video, you make a copy of the font and replace the the lowercase with Small Caps. Correct?
So, does it pull two fonts, or is it smart and load only one with the new extended set of characters?
i.e —
it loads:
Hoefler Text w/ limited characters
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Hoefler Text w/ limited charactersor just Hoefler Text w/ extended characters
- autonoma0
Each font you add (and duplicate) in a project is technically a different font, but they all load at the same time on the page via the projects CSS key. So, duplicating an existing font in the project and changing the settings for that font creates a new font.
Hope that helps!
- autonoma0
More videos:
Adding Fleurons:
Enabling Ligatures:
- vdc0
Looks great, although the pricing is confusing. My understanding is that:
1. An annual subscription fee gives you access to five web fonts.
2. Subscribers also get to use any web fonts they've already purchased from H&FJ, and fonts that they purchase in the future.
3. Some fonts appear to be free for web use only. (e.g. Gotham 1)
Does this mean that ALL subscribers gain access to a default set of free web fonts, and only have to use their five 'credits' or make purchases for non-free web fonts?
If that's the case, it might be worth mentioning the free web fonts on the pricing page here (and perhaps linking to a full list): http://www.typography.com/cloud/…
If that's not the case, then why are some web fonts listed as free for web use only?
- autonoma0
@vdc — It actually is mentioned on the pricing page that you get 5 free webfonts with a new subscription. It's just at the bottom of the page. We're currently reworking this page some as there has been some confusion. :)
Every single font we sell has a webfont counterpart, and every single font is available to use as one of the free 5. What *might* be confusing you is the packages. For instance, the Gotham bundle package ( http://www.typography.com/fonts/… ) cannot be added for free, but individual Gotham packages ( http://www.typography.com/fonts/… ) can be.
Just make sure you have "Web use only" selected under "Show prices for:" while shopping around.
Hope that helps!
- ESKEMA0
just a heads up, on http://www.typography.com/cloud/…
if you hover the fonts menu, the pulsing green dots are on top.
you should check your z-indexes...
Also, you should consider adding a wefont packages section because it's confusing if not all bundles can be added...
- autonoma0
All bundles can be added, just not for free.
Thanks for the heads up on the pulsers!
- autonoma0
Using Shades:
