advice please
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- breadlegz0
I know this is a little late, but why would you do any work without being paid up front?
- A fee is agreed at the beginning. Once the job is done you get paid. That's how it works for commissions - illustration, photography, design etcgoldieboy
- illustration, photography, design etcgoldieboy
- Disgree. I get my design work paid at least 50% up front.breadlegz
- I've never paid anyone upfront - big photographers, agencies or illustrators... fuck em! ;)goldieboy
- chossy0
If the project is substantial then 50% upfront is common practice, it protects both parties, but most work isn't substantial is it these days.
- SunSunSun0
Man, I wish the 50% up front thing really happened. Maybe I'm with the worst agent in the worls as I suggested it onece and they said they'd never heard of that!
I'm getting about a 3rd up front with this job which suits me ok. Even though by the time I get it it'll all be done.
They accepted my idea to tell the publisher i'm getting help which akes me feel a bit more at ease.
- formed0
50% upfront is normal in everything we do, 30/30/30/10 are very large projects.
It anyone has a problem with that (and it has been 2 clients in 10 years), then we invoice them the minute we start the project and arrange for a 2 week, at most, payment schedule (no 30 days, etc., if tehy don't pay the deposit).
Also, the deposit is due on engagement, NOT in 30 days (what's the point??). This ensures we get something to start in case the client decides after a few weeks to cancel.
Contracts are useless unless you have an army of lawyers. Only as good as the resources you have to enforce it. So, considering most here don't have a legal dept., money upfront and throughout the process is your only safety net.
Both parties need to have vested interest in the final product.
- breadlegz0
People should pay you at least 50% up front. Don't take the crap about industry norms.
- SunSunSun0
Right, I see that I've been getting pretty screwed over then.
I haven't been doing illustration all that long (was animating previously) but I'm gonna really try for this or find an agent that co-operates.
They always pay 2 months late on average anyway and say they have to wait for the client to pay them first etc.
I threatened to leave once before and they said it wouldn't pass the 60 day mark anymore...
- SunSunSun0
So, they have got someone to sub the work for me. I just got the amended sketches to look over and they're really bad. Like I wouldn't wanna put my name on it.
I'm gonna fix them up myself but now I'm really worried about the paint job.
I'm in two minds about whether I should bother fixing up the sketches and just put my foot down and say - this is not gonna work, I wanna cancel this job for the last friggin time.