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lovely people hammas are... this is what israel is trying to stop and what these tunnels are used for... watch this hammas video and then discuss.
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what are the shitty cartoons supposed to proove exactly? what are the lame-ass photoshops supposed to proove? what's 152nd pic of dead children supposed to proove? what's a george galloway video supposed to proove?don't know if that's proof for anything, but it suggests a correlation between obscene racism and mental retardation.
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"What is the difference between Israeli actions and those of the Nazis and Hitler?" he asked.jesus christ.
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ah, I think I get what you mean. nationalist assholes, chauvinists, racists, opressing opposing views violently. fundamentalists. when you say that these kind of assholes are slowly taking over the state and its institutions, organized and in concert, then that would be an NS kind of thing I guess.
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"Lt. Col. Peter Lerner, a spokesman for the Israeli military, said that government forces were moving to destroy a tunnel, as the terms of the cease-fire allowed for, when several militants came out of the ground.Colonel Lerner said the militants included at least one suicide attacker, that there was an exchange of fire on the ground and that initial indications were that a soldier was apparently dragged back into the tunnel. He was unable to offer details about the soldier's condition or whether others were killed in the attack. He said the episode began at around 9.30 a.m., about 90 minutes after the 72-hour cease-fire came into effect.
“The cease-fire is over,” Colonel Lerner said, adding that the military was carrying out “extensive operations on the ground” to try to locate the missing soldier. He did not identify the soldier but said his family had been notified.
Moussa Abu Marzouk, a senior official in the political wing of Hamas, the Islamic group that dominates Gaza, told the Turkish news media that Hamas had taken a soldier captive but claimed the event took place before the cease-fire began."
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"A 4-year-old boy was killed in a mortar attack a short while ago on Sha’ar Hanegev near the Gaza Strip. According to initial reports, the mortar made a direct hit on a car, critically injuring the boy, who later died of his wounds."http://www.haaretz.com/news/dipl…
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"Hamas has killed 18 Palestinians suspected of collaborating with Israel, a day after Israel killed three of the group's top military commanders in an airstrike on a house in southern Gaza Strip, witnesses and a Hamas website said.
A Gaza security official said the first batch involved 11 people who were killed early on Friday at the Gaza City police headquarters.
Six more were killed later in the day in a public execution in a central Gaza square, according to a Hamas website and witnesses cited by Reuters news agency. Three suspected collaborators were also killed on Thursday.
The victims, their heads covered and hands tied, were shot dead by masked gunmen dressed in black in front of a crowd of worshippers outside a mosque after prayers, witnesses and al-Majd, a pro-Hamas website, said.
The Gaza security official said the 11 men had previously been sentenced by Gaza courts, reported the Associated Press news agency."
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/mi…
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close to 400 rockets fired at Israel since hamas broke the cease fire tuesday.
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from earlier in the week
"The Israeli exposure of a vast Hamas terror network in the West Bank Monday revealed — for those still requiring proof — the deep rift separating Hamas and Fatah, two movements joined together in a unity government in early June and again in a trans-factional negotiation team dispatched to Cairo earlier this month.
According to the Israeli Shin Bet security service, the dozens of Hamas operatives arrested in the West Bank over May and June were not only tasked with igniting a third popular uprising in the territory controlled by the Palestinian Authority, but also with toppling its leader, Mahmoud Abbas. The Palestinian president, official news agency Wafa reported, promptly instructed his men to investigate the Israeli allegations. But, giving credence to the information, Abbas said that its “implications for the Palestinian and regional situation will be extremely dangerous.”"
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"As Hamas carried out a string of public executions against 18 Palestinians in Gaza – the first of its kind since the 1990s – members of the Palestinian Authority voiced concern over the practice.Tayeb Abdel Rahim, the secretary-general of the Palestinian Authority presidency, condemned the Hamas-ordered "random executions" of suspected collaborators with Israel on Saturday. He called the militant group's tactics unlawful and offensive "to our people and our families," adding that they were not within the scope of the law. The suspects, many of whom were serving long prison sentences, did not undergo a fair judiciary process, he said.
The Palestinian official slammed Hamas's claims that Friday's public killings were done "in accordance with the law" as "absolutely not true," and said that gunning down 18 people, including women, in broad daylight as onlookers passed by, was "cold-blooded."
The Palestinian people reject and condemn these killings, he said, as he urged human rights organizations, specifically those based in Gaza, to condemn these acts.
Abdel Rahim also called out Hamas for its targeting of other Palestinians – namely those who were placed under house arrest and shot in the legs – for urging Hamas to accept a cease-fire agreement."
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Abbas vows to keep peace in Gaza 'this year and the next'"President Mahmoud Abbas said the Palestinian Authority intends to prevent any exchange of fire in Gaza "this year and the next" in order to encourage donors to support the rebuilding of Gaza. [...] "We told them we are responsible for the ceasefire," he said, adding that he was responding to questions by US Secretary of State John Kerry regarding the ceasefire.
"I told him I am not a psychic, but during this year and next year there won't be any type of clashes."
"We informed the whole world that the government will take charge of the issue of aid and no one else," he added, "and it will send them to the correct addresses."
Abbas explained that the crossings in and out of Gaza will be under PA control, and that the PA is currently following up with the United Nations to ascertain the mechanism of their operations."
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Palestinian Prime Minister Holds First Cabinet Meeting in Gaza
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Mr. Hamdallah, who leads a government of national consensus that was formed in June, and is backed by Mr. Abbas’s mainstream Fatah party and by Hamas, is the highest profile West Bank leader to visit Gaza since 2007. That year Hamas seized control of the territory, a year after winning elections and after a brief but bloody factional war with Fatah amid a failed unity government.“The government efforts will focus on various tracks to rescue Gaza and bring relief to its population,” Mr. Hamdallah told reporters as he arrived in Gaza through the Erez crossing with Israel. “We have a moral and humanitarian duty toward our people in Gaza. All of us need to work hand in hand,” he said, adding, “We are here also to end the division and empower the language of reconciliation.”
Salah Bardawil, a Hamas official, said the visit “should have taken place a long time ago, but it is better late than never.”
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That Israel allowed the Palestinian ministers to travel from the West Bank to Gaza through its territory indicated a more nuanced approach toward the government it initially rejected.Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, who broke off negotiations with Mr. Abbas’s representatives when the reconciliation pact with Hamas was signed, continues to say that Mr. Abbas must choose between peace and Hamas. But Mr. Netanyahu has stopped publicly calling on Mr. Abbas to dismantle the government, and has acknowledged the importance of cooperation with the Palestinian Authority for aid to flow into Gaza.
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"there you go. character assassination rather than respecting due legal process"the liberal/left-wing/anti-authority... camp just happens to be pro-assange; exactly the corner who are pro-pal/anti-isr at the same time. I don't mean that as an insult, it's just how it is. you know that it is like that.
now when you put together a panel, don't you think you owe it to due process to put impartial experts on there. catch my drift?
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abbas threatens to end unity deal if hamas doesn't get their shit togetherhttp://www.aljazeera.com/news/as…
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"Mr Abbas said on arriving for talks in the Egyptian capital, Cairo: "We cannot continue working with Hamas this way. There are 27 undersecretaries of ministries who are running the Gaza Strip, and the national unity government cannot do anything on the ground."
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"So sad that Israel puts little children inside conflict zones in crowded areas surrounded by IDF soldiers of Yahweh with guns ready to kill palestinians"
– Khurramok. then by your logic, you shouldn't have a problem with the IDF actually levelling gaza, killing everybody. which israel is technically capable of. personally, i find that unthinkably cruel, inhumane.
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are you sure you have thought that through? i guess your problem with the state being all the nasty shit that's happened 1948 onward?to draw from that the conclusion that all israelis are fair game now, for all kinds of nasty shit, this logic kind of bites you in your own ass.
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Abbas: No reconciliation with Hamas before elections"[...] Hamas and Fatah jointly appointed a unity technocrat government in June, ostensibly ending seven years of political strife. According to the reconciliation agreement, the government was tasked with preparing for nationwide elections within six month, a timetable delayed by the Gaza operation.
But Abbas had a falling out with Hamas over the summer, when two members of the movement abducted and killed three Israeli teenagers in the West Bank, sparking a powerful Israeli crackdown throughout the PA-held territories. At the same time, Israeli intelligence revealed information pointing at a Hamas plot to overthrow Abbas and instigate a third intifada, or violent uprising, in the West Bank.
In his message to the media, Abbas asserted that the Palestinian government would take full control of Gaza reconstruction money, and that “no faction or party has the right to receive these funds,” a clear allusion to Hamas’s ambitions to reap the political benefits of reconstruction.
“The international community and the donor states have high confidence in the performance of the Palestinian Authority,” he said.
ِAbbas’s comments were received with rage by Hamas. Salah Bardawil, a Hamas official in Gaza, said that the Palestinian president was clearly “not serious” about the need for national reconciliation.
“What about the Cairo and Gaza agreements and the unity government that visited Gaza just days ago?” mused Bardawil in an interview with Hamas daily Al-Resalah on Monday. “Is this not reconciliation?”
According to Al-Resalah, Abbas told journalists in Cairo that “there is no future for a country where more than half the people are militiamen, a situation that will never change without elections.”
Bardawil said that Abbas’s statements “destroyed everything previously agreed upon” and “poisoned the atmosphere of reconciliation.”"
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"imagineallthepeople how do you think the suffering can be stopped?"
-Ravdyki think there's zero chance for a solution currently. israelis behaving badly right now, pals the same. international players clueless/not invested as ever.
in the middle term, i don't see how peace is going to work without a strong palestinian civil society, a majority that's pushing hard for anti-violence and pro-peace with israel. so that israel has a real authority to negotiate with, someone dependable, trustworthy.
this kind of attitude shift in the society would take generations to build or would require a level of carnage not seen before. not looking good.
