spec vs. samples?
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- ETM0
And as a slight aside, but related. Discussing fair tests. For design and production people, one test that never fails to weed out the 'hacks' is asking someone to isolate a subject from a background in PS. Especially one with fine details like hair, grass etc. If they go to the lasso and just start clicking, you can move on knowing you dodged that bullet. And it only takes a few minutes. I don't always need them to finish, just want to know where they'd start.
- And I mean clicking to trim and be done, not clicking to isolate the subject better.ETM
- ukit20
"I would be cautious of any company that starts a relationship by assuming people should/would work for free."
Unfortunately this is becoming standard practice at many places these days. Many well known Silicon Valley companies will ask for a test or spec work.
- The only people that can stop it are the potential employees. Accepting it is BS.ETM
- MrAbominable0
^ukit2, do you mean something like a rational sample as described by others earlier? or something to the extent of what my client assigned me?
- pr20
You guys are over-thinking it. Stay positive as the start-up guy might not know how shit works (or might be delusional thinking one can get so much shit for free). Simply state that the above will take (1-5 days) depending on the scope and is he willing to pay for the time - or even better you coming into the office to do it on site (again PAID). That way they see you you work, you get paid. Simple.
- MrAbominable0
Dude wrote me back that he understood the time constraints and would factor that into the work. Thereby dismissing about half my letter to him about how this was a massive amount of work and that he should consider hiring me freelance for it or make it the basis of a performance review. He further went on to reiterate that if i wasn't interested in fulfilling the request that he couldn't possibly consider me for the position.
I think my response (rather than telling him to go fuck himself) will be that "i don't think he'll be very satisfied with the caliber of work or person that he extracts from this process and if his position evolves that he should feel free to get back in touch with me.
Or i could just write him what i really think. :)
- NEVER burn bridges.pr2
- Just say, thanks but no thanks and move on.qTime
- I'd say that your portfolio and references speak to your skills, and if they reconsider to give you a call.ETM
- etm ftw.MrAbominable
- pr20
Just wanted to ad that i noticed that lots of people are thought in business schools: "Never pay for anything you don't have to pay for." Unfortunately most people take this advice and translate to: "Never pay for anything."
- qTime0
Why are jobs just becoming one big competition?
Do companies want to hire the most desperate person who will slave away for them hours on end?