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- CanHasQBN0
This is what the current Stopwatch looks like (it has never really changed):
And this is what the Stopwatch SHOULD look like based on the other interfaces in the Clock App (I made this in 10 minutes). It now ties in with the World Clock and Alarm:
This is just one example out of many many inconsistencies with their confusing design direction.
There is no excuse for these inconsistencies, especially from a large company like Apple, who employs hundreds of designers and has hundreds of eyes looking at this stuff.
- you sound madmonospaced
- Is that what you say when you realize that someone else might be right? You call them "mad"?CanHasQBN
- Man, if you can't see the blatant laziness going on at Apple right now, you're blind.CanHasQBN
- you act as if when Steve was alive at Apple nothing went wrong, but that's not the case. there were blunders under his watchmonospaced
- Of course there were blunders, but not on this level.CanHasQBN
- They brought no innovations, they took away some useful apps and features, and they couldn't even be bothered enoughCanHasQBN
- enough to fix consistency issues with their UI. There is so much minor shit they should've taken care of, but didn't.CanHasQBN
- i like itBrokenHD
- futuremongolian0
This is hilarious. People buying phones that are damaged out of the box and fanboys defending Apple over what is clearly a massive fuckup and indicative of shitty practices.
- BusterBoy0
Looks like some of the phones were used during the riots at Foxconn.
- mantrakid0
I just sold my 2 year old iPhone 4 for $290 and it was (lightly) scratched up all over the place. Used it heavily on a day to day basis and never used a case with it, never babied it, even let my 3 year old kid play on it whenever he wanted. And even after all that I got $290 for it.. I paid like $280 for it on a 3 year contract when it came out FFS...
Just saying, the phones are popular because they work well, and have value. And they hold their value because they continue to work well for a long ass time.
- mg330
I would probably put it in a case anyways. Not held the new one yet, but the 4 and 4s actually feel too fragile without something around it. The bumper at least gives a little texture that's sticky and stays in your hand.
Like, when jogging, I can't imagine holding the phone without some kind of rubber case that has a good grip. Shame that the phone might be prone to scratching, but I'd rather have a case to protect it.
- mantrakid0
ive got a htc phone i bought only one year prior to my iphone 4 and it's going for $10 on ebay...
- whhipp0
CanHasQBN I agree with you completely... no attention to detail now will eventually lead to further and further disjointedness. Sad, but obvious.
- those inconsistencies were all there and okay'd by Steve too, btwmonospaced
- Weyland0
*buying Sharpies stock*
- nikdaum0
Fuel for the fire:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/2…
- slappy0
Must be hard making that many phones and keeping the quality up.
I made spaghetti for 20 people once, it was way harder than than my usual batch, wasn't as good either..
- when i make spaghetti for myself, it usually ends up being enough to feed 20 peopleprophetone
- I tried making spaghetti once,
I accidentaly created a religionGeorgesII - Zing!nikdaum
- ernexbcn0
Like it never happened before
- exactly... when Steve Jobs died in 2007 Apple went to total shit. Give 'em 50 years, they're gonna fallmonospaced
- well this didn't happen right out of the box. we've never heard of scratched iphones in the box until now.CanHasQBN
- That was a shitty design tooanimatedgif
- CanHasQBN0
The fall of Apple.
Too many mistakes without babysitter Steve around.
- When are they gonna fall? I keep waiting but they keep climbing to the top. Please. Be specific.monospaced
- Steve's been dead a year. When did the fall start and how long will it take. How many times must they break records winning first?monospaced
- Also. You talk about Steve like he was a god. He must give you a real boner. Are you sad?monospaced
- autoflavour0
dont have one, but i played with one yesterday at a shop..
it was side by side with the 4S (which i do have)and at first i was like, what is all the fuss..
but then holding it, it feels so much lighter.. its weird..
if feels like you could throw the 4S at someone and hurt them.. where as the 5 probably wouldnt at all.i always gauge the quality of a phone by its effectiveness as an impromptu weapon
- SunSunSun0
CanHasQBN, you should go work for them. You'd be good at the quality control. I agree with all the small details you've mentioned. Nothing wrong with making things as beautiful as possible.
Steve was pretty OCD about the small details like this anecdote I'm sure everyone's read:
One Sunday morning, January 6th, 2008 I was attending religious services when my cell phone vibrated. As discreetly as possible, I checked the phone and noticed that my phone said "Caller ID unknown". I choose to ignore.
After services, as I was walking to my car with my family, I checked my cell phone messages. The message left was from Steve Jobs. "Vic, can you call me at home? I have something urgent to discuss" it said.
Before I even reached my car, I called Steve Jobs back. I was responsible for all mobile applications at Google, and in that role, had regular dealings with Steve. It was one of the perks of the job.
"Hey Steve - this is Vic", I said. "I'm sorry I didn't answer your call earlier. I was in religious services, and the caller ID said unknown, so I didn't pick up".
Steve laughed. He said, "Vic, unless the Caller ID said 'GOD', you should never pick up during services".
I laughed nervously. After all, while it was customary for Steve to call during the week upset about something, it was unusual for him to call me on Sunday and ask me to call his home. I wondered what was so important?
"So Vic, we have an urgent issue, one that I need addressed right away. I've already assigned someone from my team to help you, and I hope you can fix this tomorrow" said Steve.
"I've been looking at the Google logo on the iPhone and I'm not happy with the icon. The second O in Google doesn't have the right yellow gradient. It's just wrong and I'm going to have Greg fix it tomorrow. Is that okay with you?"
Of course this was okay with me. A few minutes later on that Sunday I received an email from Steve with the subject "Icon Ambulance". The email directed me to work with Greg Christie to fix the icon.
Since I was 11 years old and fell in love with an Apple II, I have dozens of stories to tell about Apple products. They have been a part of my life for decades. Even when I worked for 15 years for Bill Gates at Microsoft, I had a huge admiration for Steve and what Apple had produced.
But in the end, when I think about leadership, passion and attention to detail, I think back to the call I received from Steve Jobs on a Sunday morning in January. It was a lesson I'll never forget. CEOs should care about details. Even shades of yellow. On a Sunday.
- You know, nearly all of those design inconsistencies were implemented with Steve at the helm. Just sayin'monospaced
- You're probably right Mono. Just seems like there are a lot more slipping through the cracks...SunSunSun
- prophetone0
refurbs?
- CanHasQBN0
Mono, like I said, there's no specific date. A "date" is completely irrelevant and you requesting a *specific* date is stupid, and you know it. Moving on... ever since Steve left, they've been making some really crappy decisions. They climbed to the top on Steve's high standards, his ideas, and that momentum is why they are currently on top. This momentum still goes on, and didn't stop the instant Steve died (that's why it's called momentum). They're not going to fall overnight (I never said, or implied they they would). Did Apple pass Microsoft overnight? No. Took about a decade.
Can you tell me anything positive about this latest release? Besides an extra row of icons?
They got rid of an extremely useful Map app and replaced it with something that is unusable, unreliable, and was clearly not ready for release.
The brought in panorama shooting and sold it as if they were the first phone to have it, when they were the last.
They bought out Chomp and hired them on to screw up the app store. When you search, you have to sift through results one by one. And if you try to flick through them too fast, it becomes unresponsive. You have to wait for the sliding animation to completely stop before flicking to the next app. It literally takes ten times longer to find something than the previous store. Have you tried it? This will have a huge impact on app developers' ability to get their apps noticed and purchased.
Their UI is all over the place. They're changing things with no rhyme or reason. Before, the interfaces of a 10-digit pad were consistent (first two jpgs). Now there's a white dialer, with inconsistent colors and fonts. Everything they're doing now is disjointed.
Old ios 5 Dialer:
Passcode Entry:
New ios 6 Dialer:
And they can't decide what they want their interfaces to look like. Below are all sections of the same app. You've got screens with blue backgrounds, blue status bars, corduroy textures, rounded corners, and matte buttons. And then in the SAME app you've also got screens with blacks, grays and glossy buttons. How on Earth do the first two screenshots relate to the last two screenshots?? Again, this is the SAME app.
- New dialer looks shitty, IMOnikdaum
- A date or timeframe is not stupid and you know it.monospaced
- August 19, 2014. No wait, that IS stupid to set a specific date.ETM
- mono, you want me to pick out a date out of thin air when Apple will fall? You're a moron.CanHasQBN
- A date has nothing to do with my opinion.CanHasQBN
- People foresaw the fall of Pontiac, but nobody ever claimed to know an exact "date"...CanHasQBN
- ...because an exact date is completely irrelevant.CanHasQBN
- CanHasQBN0
I mean, if you're going to change what a 10-digit number pad looks like in the UI... then change it *everywhere*, not only in the phone app. How they're able to overlook this is beyond my understanding.
This is the kind of shit where Steve would've stepped in and said, "Hey wait a minute you lazy fucks, this doesn't match up. You're fired."
- Nobody gives a shit about that.monospaced
- It's just ONE example out of MANY. It's an example of how this new leadership just doesn't give a shit about the details.CanHasQBN
- and it's the DETAILS, the quality and respect for design that got Apple the respect it deserved.CanHasQBN
- +1riskunlogic
- +1Al_dizzle
