Every small to medium site is built on Wordpress or Tumblr these days
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- clearThoughts
Does it justify to build a custom CMS anymore?
I know Tumblr itself is a website and so it is Facebook and Linkedin and Pinterest... but for any site with a budget of under $100K is there any real point in creating a custom CMS?I don't think so anymore...
- err0
its all about skinz now
- clearThoughts0
I'm a skin designer for a living! What do you do? Open Twitter acounts for blue chip clients?
- err0
I gotta start making skins. I have a few friends that do this for side jobs. they get alot of work.
- uan0
for big sites: typo3 if you got the skills ready yet,
or perch cms for smaller sites.wordpress maybe, but we avoid it as it's buggy and to much of an easy target for viruses and such.
- any experience with Perch?clearThoughts
- yes, we did 1 or 2 sites with it. we were happy. nothing difficult, pretty straightforward and good thing is, you host the code.uan
- code. so it's pretty secure.uan
- vaxorcist0
wordpress has the "what if the developer gets hits by a bus" factor... if your site is done in some obscure CMS, it's harder to find a replacement developer really fast.... yes, I know we don't think of typo3 or concrete5 or django or rails as obscure, but most of the suits do, they've never heard of them......
- clearThoughts0
very true...
But don't forget the "Client goes to Wordpress.org and creates his own site in 2 minutes" factor...
- detritus0
"wordpress has the "what if the developer gets hits by a bus" factor..."
I'd almost argue that for WP too, given the amount of hacks and out of date plugins and add-ons that can mess up a WP install.
Shit can get labyrinthine pretty quick.
Also, WP's a bloated dog.
If you just need a basic CMS, I'd say there's a lot more merit in 'web designers' using a more appropriate and more specific tool for the task.
- yes... the ability to cruft up stuff is terrifying.... suits don't think about that though,...vaxorcist
- ESKEMA0
I never used anything else since I met Concrete5. I'm not your uber developer though, more designer with some poor programming knowledge that gets shit done. But I never felt the need to switch since then.
- zoozoo0
wordpress is slooowwww as molasses, i still use it though.
- qTime0
I think the industry is crying out for a decent CMS!
WP is annoying and complicated.Like Photoshop, it was made to a different job.
- pressplay0
anyone using drupal?
- ideaist0
http://www.squarespace.com/ seems interesting and fairly simple but pretty closed circuit in terms of where it's hosted, etc.
- clearThoughts0
For me the biggest thing to lookout on a CMS is the userbase. And that is where Wordpress really stands out.
- albums0
wordpress vs custom to have the same front end display? i was reluctant but find wordpress to be useful in most small to medium cases. combine a cheap client and it's really the most economical for both parties.
- uuuuuu0
what you guys think about concrete5 ? i don't do much web but I set up two sites with it before i even tried wordpress once.
- mikotondria30
I found frog a few years ago, just to be contrary as I'd used WP and thought it too cumbersome for a small site, and too intricate and fuckupable. Frog progressed into Wolf, and I'm entirely happy with it - I never have to expend and dev time into it, just run up a bespokse design depending on precisely what the client needs, xfer to html, then splice in the cms data hooks - there can't be any simpler way to do so much. The clients get a wyswyg in the back to do their blogging/news, no clients are ever more confident to do anything else. Specific needs for say, events, larger forms, can be handled by easily writing your own plugins in raw no-nonsense php with a couple of hook files/functions to link it to the cms backend.
- ETM0
We exclusively use either ExpressionEngine or CMS Made Simple depending on the job.
Got tired of all the CMS systems, the WP hacks and custom just doesn't make sense anymore. You can almost anything with the above with a good PHP developer.
We're not dealing with Fortune 500 companies, so we haven't had scale issues.
- tOki0
E-commerce:
http://www.magentocommerce.com/Everything else:
http://www.pimcore.org/