LED TV Quality
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- mg33
Has anyone gone from an LCD tv to an LED tv at any point in the last couple years? We just got a Samsung D7000 to replace a 2009 Samsung LCD - both are 1080P. We also got a blu ray player with it.
I noticed a major difference when watching a blu ray, which I expected. The quality was almost awkward at first. I've done all the screen config based on common settings from an AV forum.
We are watching a DVD now and much like a blu ray, the quality is so different than I've seen before. everything looks like an HD tv show in terms of clarity. Movies dont look like "film" is the best way I can explain. Hope you know what mean.
So, I'm assuming this is an aspect of the TV, but what aspect in particular? LED? 240 Refresh rate? What?
- inteliboy0
It's really just LED vs Fluorescent bulbs that are lighting the LCD screen. The difference you're noticing is probably just the latest LCD tech, rather then anything to do with LED.... these companies are adding odd motion-blur algorithms and stuff to smooth out that 'digital' look for super fast refresh rates, it all seems kind of backwards and gimmicky really. Could try play with some settings to get a nicer film look.
- akrok0
i have seen a few 720, who looks better then 1080.
sometimes it specs isn't all but 240 refresh rate. that should rock.- well that's on 40". your tv is a 46" right?akrok
- 60"mg33
- dang!akrok
- It rules. Went from 40 to 60, but we have a pretty big living room. I'm about 16 feet from it.mg33
- sweetakrok
- 240 refresh wouldn't look sweet, it would look terrible. The interpolation for it is the issue you are complaining about.ETM
- I don't get why artificially adding frames to content is a 'sales' point.ETM
- monstroyer0
Sounds like the "Auto Motion Plus" setting. It's a built in feature that increases the frame rates for a "smoother" look. Fine for HD nature stuff but ruins the 24fps film look. Go into picture settings and dial that sucker back to "standard" or "off".
- formed0
So it's not just me? I have a fairly new Sony 46" LCD and movies look too much like 'real life' (can't think of a better way to put it). They just looks shallow, not at all like an epic film. Colors, etc., are great, it just doesn't 'feel' like a movie.
- Look for the Motion Flow (or equivalent) setting, and turn it off.********
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- Look for the Motion Flow (or equivalent) setting, and turn it off.
- epic_rim0
its the refresh rate. people are familiar with 24fps and 60 hz refresh. jack that up to 120hz and things start looking silly, not film like.
- < Common misconception. See monstroyer's post above for the correct answer.********
- < Common misconception. See monstroyer's post above for the correct answer.
- _me_0
bump to remind me to respond in the morning - I know this
- ********0
http://www.pcworld.com/article/1…
"Most new 120 and 240Hz LCD HDTV sets boast that they use their fast refresh rates to smooth out motion blur, which can occur at normal 60Hz refresh rates. These smoothing or "de-juddering" technologies are variously called Motion Flow (Sony), Motion Picture Pro3 (Panasonic), Movie Plus (Samsung), and TruD (Sharp), but all basically interpolate additional frames to reduce motion blur.
Some people love the effect, which results in a very smooth and stable image. Others hate it, saying that it looks unnatural, especially for film sources; film's lower native refresh rate gives it a distinctive feel that is different from video. So you may want to turn off or reduce smoothing for film sources (along with turning on the 24Hz playback mode if your TV supports it), and maintain smoothing for video sources. Experiment with the smoothing setting and different sources to determine what looks best to you."
- CygnusZero40
I recently bought the Sony Bravia KDL55NX720, 55" model, and it's amazing. You can get it for around $1500 now since it's last years model.
It has a 120 refresh but it has a feature called motionflow. When set to standard motion is almost too smooth, but change that to clear and it looks fantastic, or turn it off if you want.
Check the forums at AVSforum.com to find reviews and settings for various TVs. Much better place to ask than here because there's so many people there that are hardcore AV nuts and know a lot more about this stuff than most of us.
- mg330
I checked our TV (It's a Samsung) and it's motion feature is indeed turned off. I need to watch a dvd or blu ray and check the settings then.
I watched a movie over Netflix last night through the SmartHub streaming to the TV, and it looked fine actually. Kind of looked like film. I think it's distinctly the things we watch from the Blu Ray player.
- mg330
Also... in most of the guides online, people have all that motion stuff turned off. I following some config suggestions I found online and they all had that stuff turned off. Like I said above, I think it's more in the Blu Ray > TV configuration.
We watched Stepbrothers on Blu Ray last weekend, and it was pretty wild. I know Blu Ray is an even better quality, but it looked like they could have been in the room with us.