Online Presence
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- craigatkinson
For artists and designers.
I'm giving a lecture this week about digital / analogue portfolios and presence.Any suggestions re online presence in terms of being seen, or any reasons why printed portfolios are better than digital? [generally]
- monospaced0
I think that in this day and age, for graphic designers of all kinds, having both is an absolute necessity. No matter what they will be designing for both kinds of media, but as long as analogue production is involved it's nice to have a physical piece. Having one's work online is essential to a true, wide-reaching presence, and having a printed portfolio is great for in-person meetings.
- monospaced0
Without an online presence, one would have to rely solely on analogue meetings, and that's outdated and non-competitive.
- doesnotexist0
both are NOT absolutely necessary. i've stopped using printed portfolios and only use digital.
- do you do any print work?monospaced
- i do a lot of print work, mostly packaging programs. some bizcards & collateral. signage. other shit.doesnotexist
- bjladams0
over the last 2 years i've hired 10 or so different freelancers for specific jobs - nobody has supplied a printed portfolio - they've all been websites or pdfs.
in fact, of those people, i've only ever met 2 of them in person.- and i've always considered myself a big advocate of printed portfolios... time to reassess myself :-)bjladams
- adams, have you had anyone using an iPad in an interview. If so, what do they present?k_temp
- i use my ipad for interviews. just put a PDF on it.doesnotexist
- k_temp0
mmm Interesting... im in the process of applying for jobs and i've been asking myself whether to have a printed version or not.
I work in Exhibition so our printed stuff are plexiglass, acrylic, glass, mdf substrate, sintra etc etc etc and big pieces like 4' x 6' so everything that I show is thru photos and I show plenty.
Aside from exhibition i do small gigs here and there; so for me, I dont feel the NEED to have a printed portfolio because everything or the BEST work that i have is already online and I cant physically bring the actual piece with me.I'm opting to find a way [in an interview] to use my iPad to show other things, like thinking process, work in progress etc etc
- however if you do packaging, books etc, by all means physical is importantk_temp
- nooooot really at all. would never bring in packaging samples as i'd need a trailer.doesnotexist
- < lol. Bring a shopping cartk_temp
- a picture is sufficient if the brand is big enough.doesnotexist
- bjladams0
@k - haven't had anyone come in with an iPad yet - most of it's done over the internets. but my business partner ditched his computer last year and has gone iPad only, he concentrates on sales and copy writing - not design, so can get away with that.
and - same with you -a good chunk of our work comes in the form of industrial design, signs, wraps, billboards etc - when my partner shows work (via the iPad) all he does is set a slideshow, put it on the table and talk. it's sort of a background thing i guess. most clients seem to want to see 2 or 3 pics to know we're competent and then move the discussion to what they want...
- monospaced0
When we interview people who will be doing print work, and have a print background, a totally digital portfolio is adequate, actually. What's really, really nice is when they bring in actual samples of finished production print pieces. These show how the designer thinks when making decisions about things like color, materials, stock and binding.
- right, makes sense, but this is suited for books, collaterals, brochures, etc etck_temp
- Why the "but..." k_temp? This is all relevant to the discussion.monospaced
- it was the first word that came to mind. I meant to say that if you've done books, collaterals, posters any of those it makes sense to bring the actual piece.k_temp
- sense to bring the actual piece.k_temp
- wordmonospaced
- bjladams0
@mono - that's good, seeing jobs thru to completion is a big plus.
i suppose that it's also cause we're still quite young and small, and i had a job as a printer for 5 years, so when we're hiring freelance designers, we're not looking for ideas with print, we know what the product will be and are looking for people to design to our specs.
but if i was hiring on a full time employee (to help take on ideas), i'd be trusting that they would know print and i'd prefer to see physical samples of what they've accomplished. or, i'd like them to know nothing so we could teach them from the ground up :-)
- I get'cha. I think we're in agreement here. Cheers.monospaced
- vaxorcist0
hmmm... RE: giving a talk on "online presence"
I'd suggest dealing with the case of multiple people with "your name"
i.e. how do you handle it if somebody else with "your name" has done something illegal? or is in the same profession but.. uh..... has a different aesthetic?!?
people google people.... and if you have a common name!
My first idea is to use a company name, and possibly a city listed prominently and profession on the business card + all email correspondence....
- freshdude0
1. HAVE A WEBSITE.
2. HAVE SOMETHING NICE TO SHOW PEOPLE AT AN INTERVIEW. AN IPAD OR NICELY PRINTED BOOK IS FINE. PRINTED EXAMPLES LOOK GOOD.
3. DON'T NAME YOUR KID JOHN SMITH. HE WON'T BE FOUND ON GOOGLE.
4. MAKE NICE BUSINESS CARDS.
5. BE NICE TO PEOPLE.
- craigatkinson0
Thanks for this. I really believe the printed folio is on its way out due to speed more than anything.
- zaq0
you should start here http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitie…
- seansuth0
In my experience, I have made about 30+ printed books for each person that I am interviewing with. I am a big advocate of having a printed portfolio, maybe I'm partial because I like a lot of things that are printed. I make 9x12 leave behind books the night before, use the hand embosser with my logo on the cover and give them one of my letterpress business cards. I have received plenty of compliments about the book/business cards and sometimes I'll bring in 8x10 letterpress prints. I also have a website but as of late, the printed book has more recent samples. I think it's very important to have both but some may disagree.
Good luck with your talk.
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- e-pill0
i never used a digital portfolio.. but one isnt better than the other..
a portfolio in hand is like a cock in hand.. after awhile you get a creamy enjoyment..
otherwise a digital portfolio is like only a cock in hand waiting for the creamy middle..
either or.. knee pads is your best selling point for your lecture..
:P