so a big merch company wants to work with me
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- joseprieto
they saw all my designs and sent me an email saying they want to work with me.
they are pretty big work with like huge bands and some smaller.
they ask me about fees, killed fees, turn around time.
I usually work with labels and I go from 75 to 150 dollars per design.. and they usually like what I give them so they never killed anything or had to to do more than 2. and the turn arounds I work with them. I always ask for a deadline.what should I tell these guys?
Im thinking of asking for more than I usually charge cuz they are big. but how much more?
and what would a good killed design fee would be like?
- monospaced0
$1000 a poster, $250 kill fee. 3 rounds of edits.
- joseprieto0
I like that monospaced... I think they do from posters and shirts and stuff like that. but I feel thats a good start
- monospaced0
It was just off the top of my head, but it seems reasonable. It gives you leverage, they have clear expectations, and you might even finish a poster in a single sitting, which is a good way to make a grand. If you spend three days on another, you're still winning. And if it's killed, you can still party. Cheers.
- dbloc0
at least $500 a design with a $200 kill fee
- yeah, at least 500johnny_wobble
- < that's usually for T designs in these parts.dbloc
- johnny_wobble0
you want to set a price per poster design regardless of how involved it is? if so, $1000 sounds fairly reasonable to me.
or just set an hourly rate.
- flat rate for this situation, I believe, the hourly rate just causes problems later, no?monospaced
- joseprieto0
yeah I woudlnt do it by the hour...
I think I will start asking what monospaced said... and take it from there...
what you guys think?- 1K should be a drop in the bucket for a large company.dbloc
- 20020
Consider how and what they are going to use the design.
They might disect it and use parts of it for a hat.
Concept = $
Variations of concept for different application = $- I agree... but that seems complicated...joseprieto
- contracts can prevent thismonospaced
- mg330
Is this for Urban Outfitters? Don't they normally send one of their catalog sluts over for an afternoon as payment?
- Yum.meffid
- American Apparel. But, I believe they stopped.waterhouse
- meffid0
You're not going to last long if you don't know how to charge.
- I freelance for ad agencies dude. I have a daily ratejoseprieto
- I specified at the beginning of this thread that Ive done stuff for small labels and what do I charge themjoseprieto
- akrok0
^
an arm and a leg!
- cbass990
"Pricing & Ethical Guidelines" book is good for this question.
Get it.ISBN-13: 978-0-932102-15-7
ISNB-10: 0-932102-15-8
- vaxorcist0
Try to have some clear agreement about who has what authority to approve things...inside an agency, this is pretty clear, but in a situation like this, maybe not..... you may have to be like a creative, an account exec and a CD all at once sometimes with a client like this.... yes, they have an idea, but not the same as we're used to from the agency way....
... try to avoid any "feedback conversations" with anyone who does NOT have authority to approve things...
I'd try hard to make sure there are change fees, kill fees and
- and any flat-bid project has some disclaimer to protect you in case they take forever and are vague and change thingsvaxorcist
- hektor9110
Google luck my friend,
- Miguex0
500 bucks for a shirt design?
either you guys are dreaming or I should give professional golf a try.I know for a fact that major brands in action sports go anywhere from $100 to $300 per SELECTED GRAPHIC.
That's right, you bust your ass making 50 graphics, if they only pick one, you get paid for that single graphic and they will turn that piece of art into anything they want, most people don't get royalties...
just sayin....
- Question is how finicky they are,it can be good or terrible... good luck!vaxorcist