I f*cked up. Help and advice?
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- mikotondria30
It's simple math, though isn't it ?
1 pint of Guiness = 3 units of alcohol.
x 2 = 6 units of alcohol.
+ 2 bar measures of Whiskey; probably 2 each (1 unit of alcohol for spirits is one UK measure of approx. 1/16 Gill), as someone who has drunk extensively on both sides of the pond I can tell you US free-poured measures are literally twice what they are in the UK, so that's another 4 units of alcohol, giving 10 in all. A healthy buzz and no mistake.
You were there for 2 1/2 hours, so even assuming you had consumed it all instantly, then let your liver process 1 unit per hour, that's still 10 - 2.5 = 7.5 units of alcohol in you when you left. That's the lower limit, let's average it out to 8.5 units.
That's too much to get into a car and drive with. Anyone would feel a buzz from that even if they were having a 'quiet' drink where emotions and behavior were 'business like' and not focussed around being drunk, and being drunk wasn't the topic of conversation.
What state was this in ?- 2 pints of Guinness and 2 shots? Mate come on. You tipsy!rosskemp
- panacea0
It's smarter to not drive at night. Bottomline.
- dummies0
i think you should go to jail for attempted vehicular homicide
- twooh0
I honestly felt bad for your situation at first, until I was driving on the 5-freeway and saw a drunk driver swerving lanes at 2AM, doing 95mph last night. I had to catch up with the guy, flash my blinders a few times, and call 911 to slow him down.
It was really dangerous man
- fooler0
They just passed a law in Oregon that first offenders are required to get a breathalyzer system to start their car.
I think this is pretty extreme for first offenders, maybe if you blew 2 or 3 times the limit or were in an accident I would be in favor of it.- now that's some f*cked up shit, I thought Oregon was supposed to be a "liberal" state?panacea
- unfortunately "liberal" means more gov't regulations but I'll save that conversation for the politics threadfooler
- yeah lib states have crazy lawsmoldero
- but it's also illegal for the police to have road side sobriety check points here. which is coolfooler
- pr20
As always a bunch of practical closet Republicans frame the issue in easy terms while a few try to point out the bigger problem: namely that we've become slaves to the laws rather than laws working for us to help regulate human relationships.
A dude serves two consecutive 25 year sentences for shoplifting 9 video tapes, or another guy gets 26 years for stealing 4 cookies:
This is just not right. Yes, don't drink and drive but lets put it all in perspective. The chance of him hurting someone after 2 bears is rather slim - especially so because he wasn't pulled over for driving like a drunk but rather not following some obscure law about pulling to the left.
- GeorgesII0
ahahahahahahah
I don't have a car...
- _niko0
try this next time
- sine0
- shellie0
That happened to me a over 7 years ago now. It's a real pain. I also blew barely over the limit but only after they held me there for 30 minutes waiting for a breathalyzer, then a blood test. When I got a lawyer and based on the timing of how much and when I was drinking, the courts later determined that they couldn't really tell if I was actually drunk when I was driving. (I only had one drink, but im a small girl so I guess that's enough). And, the cop that pulled me over did so because I almost hit him baking up out of a parking space, but he didn't have his headlines on at night in a dark lot with no lights in it. So I guess I was really really lucky, and getting a lawyer to guide me through it really helped. It costed me about $1500 but I did not have a suspended license and it went down on my record as a "wet reckless" instead of a DUI. It did not effect my car insurance costs.
But unfortunately, there is no such thing as a wet reckless in Canada, so now that the mark on my record is over 5 years old, I have to go to the Canadian consulate and pay $1000 to be able to cross the border freely without issues and without special visas. My misdemeanor translated over as a felony over there. So, depending on what countries you travel to often, there may be a ripple of records you have to pay to clear -- considering you don't rack up any more offenses.
Sorry bro -- holiday weekends are the worst time to risk it.
- panacea0
^ no, it's a waste of your money. First time offenders get a slap on the wrist, you'll waste at least 1K on it.
You're not going to win this case with a lawyer, you blew what you blew and that's that.
- dMullins0
The best bet is a lawyer. Yah, it's expensive, but worth it. You may even get the charge dropped, since you only blew a marginal amount over. The lawyer will certainly look at that and try to argue that the machine may not have been calibrated recently.
- he failed the field test though before blowing over the limit. then blew over again at the station.sine
- panacea0
Eh.... first time offense, is nothing.
Just cool it down, it's more of a money making scheme by your state or whatever area you're in, more than anything else. You start doing it again and again and again, that's on you. Then they get really pissed. Your initial hearing, if that's what they call it where you are, is a cattle rush, you'll get called up with 300 other people, more than likely. Also, don't get a lawyer, it's a waste of money for your first offense.
They'll force you to go through some form of a Rehabilitative Program.
- Rehabilitative Program?
For rehabilitating from a copuple of guinnesses?
Ha!, cool system.maquito
- Rehabilitative Program?
- formed0
I am surprised at everyone's "if you have alcohol at all, you should never drive, ever". Well, then we might as well shut the bars down, because that is 99.99% of the people out there.
Every place I've lived, in about 6 states, there is either very little access to cabs or none at all. Not every place has the same transportation.
Clearly, I am for responsible driving, but I am also realistic. The laws are just absurd. If you are "drunk" (sorry, two beers does not make you drunk), then get the book thrown at you. If you get two convictions, get 10 books thrown at you, three and you have a serious problem (the laws still approach all this like a ticket, cash cow money maker for the state and lawyers, there are so many with multiple dui's on the road, then someone with bad luck gets the same penalty, it is insane!).
Cell phones, to me, is a far greater problem. Anyone that talks, certainly anyone that texts, should be given the same penalty, if we are talking "safety" (but we aren't, as the laws are not geared towards safety). How people can fight this is beyond me.
- < Yes, it's a ploy to make $ and appease the MADD crowd. It's always one bad seed that ruins it for everyone.panacea
- antagonista0
Lawyer always gets it pled down. It's expensive but you definitely don't want that shit on your employment record. Background checks are a bitch. So make sure the deal cut is probation for a year and suspended.
- chossy0
The police pulled you over for a reason right?. Most likely because you looked like you didn't have complete control of your vehicle. Just think about that for a wee minute. Out on the streets driving the car and getting pulled over.
I think you must take the medicine you receive, hopefully it fits the crime and isn't too heavy handed. Classes and a wee ban would be adequate in my book. You clearly recognise it was a bad decision. You'll not be doing that again.
- raf0
A friend of mine just told me last week how he was once on a bus in Ukrainian countryside. The driver was served shots of vodka by passengers while driving. When asked by my friend (who had been getting the shots as well) why all those cars drove without lights at night, he said "Why? They're all locals, they know the road".
- raf0
I am astounded that people here argue the amount of alcohol ingested wasn't a problem. I don't know anyone who can say they're sober having drunk two pints of beer, even as light as Guinness. Add a shot of Jameson and... wait, are you Irish or something?
There are so many variables at play it makes sense to sweep with a broad brush. If you're tired after an intense week (which is always the case on Friday night), half a pint can easilygive you a slight buzz. You had one too many already.
Two hours might clean up your system a bit and you could blow ok but now you're sleepy and your psychomotor reactions are slower.
You had any alcohol, you don't drive that night—how complicated is that?- "You had any alcohol, you don't drive that night—how complicated is that?" Exactlydyspl