Operation Odyssey Dawn
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- TheBlueOne0
Perhaps "Operation Fucking Obvious" would've been better...
- BattleAxe0
sadly seems more Trend now to be at War as a U.S President , Obama was a sitting duck for the 2012 Presidential Campaign , enter Libya at any level of Military support and now how do the polls look?
- topic0
every twenty years on average....
- and many bombing campaigns and proxy wars in between?Dodecahedron
- abettertomorrow0
Too much to believe the international community actually intervened to stop (Q)Gaffadi slaughtering his own citizens?
You guys are so convinced with your "world is corrupt and evil" conspiracy theories you don't even need to hear the evidence.
- they just pick and choose their tyrants for economic reasons then use the moral high ground as excuseDodecahedron
- african has been through genocide like 5 times and the international community said nothing, actually they helpedDodecahedron
- I think you're oversimplifying things, to put it mildly.abettertomorrow
- So when they didn't intervene it was bad and now that they intervene it's also bad?abettertomorrow
- wrong, you fail to see the reality of usa military involvement in any situationDodecahedron
- its bad periodDodecahedron
- yeah, remember kosovo? OIL WAR.ThePublics
- it global geo-politics not simply oil, oil is obviously libya thoughDodecahedron
- So they shouldn't intervene then, even to stop genocide?abettertomorrow
- At some point your argument becomes a bit ridiculousabettertomorrow
- Especially since the Libyan opposition was begging for a no fly zone for weeksabettertomorrow
- they only decided to actually enforce this because its in europes and usa interest not to be like the peace bringersDodecahedron
- topic0
- Hard to take any of that seriously, when it ends with "None of us really matter to them"
Thesocialgospel - that audio is taken from an interviewtopic
- Hard to take any of that seriously, when it ends with "None of us really matter to them"
- abettertomorrow0
If they wanted to keep the oil flowing, they should have just let Gaffadi stay in power, no? He was already making deals with the west as TBO's link above shows.
- ETM0
When people say the US, UN etc often only help countries that typically have some economic or political gain attached, (which is true), how is that different than anything we each do as individuals?
What about causes and charities we support? There are numerous causes and suffering people out there, but we zero in on what is important to us or what benefits us. You know someone who has cancer, you donate there and may ignore starving kids. You knew someone on the street, you give there and may ignore abused women. You can't help them all, so you help ones that in some way benefit you back directly or indirectly. Nations are rarely different.
It's human nature.
- I don't bomb people with my charity...
nextGeorgesII - It's laughable how naive some people on here can be to how the world really works.ETM
- So Georges advocates borderline genocide just because economic factors exist to motivate action.ETM
- So basically, if you don't help everyone out of the goodness of your heart, don't help anyone for any reason.ETM
- reread what I wrote,
slowlyGeorgesII - I can read. You instead advocate what, Gaddafi's troops randomly shooting at residential neighbourhoods and civilians?ETM
- and civilians to create enough terror that people wanting freedom die or just hide away?ETM
- At least the people are getting some assistance, regardless of the political and economic means attached.ETM
- I don't bomb people with my charity...