HTML 5.0
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- boobs
What percentage of current browsers support HTML 5.0?
A potential client asked me, and I really didn't know...
- seeessess0
Google is your friend ;o) "html5 browser support"
- lukus_W0
As I understand it, HTML5 includes a series of proposed 'modular' functions. Various parts of the specification will be introduced individually - and full support across all A-grade browsers is not likely for many years.
IE is dragging it's heals.
Want to make use of a specific feature now??
- boobs0
So, the percentage of current browsers that support HTML 5.0 is less than 5%?
- lukus_W0
It's actually 0% .. I don't think any browser supports everything yet.
- boobs0
That's what I was thinking
- welded0
I'd say seeessess link plus something like this pretty much answer your question exactly. http://www.w3counter.com/globals…
- clearThoughts0
mmmm.... potential client wants HTML 5.... reminds me of this:
<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/HyTpzgAW5NA&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/HyTpzgAW5NA&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
- boobs0
So, is there any disagreement with the figure of 0%?
No current browsers fully support HTML 5.0?
- acescence0
no browsers fully support HTML5 because there is no complete HTML5 spec, still in working draft.
- Spec is due for approval 2022 - (no joke)lukus_W
- http://www.webmonkey…lukus_W
- detritus0
NERF!
- stewdio0
@boobs
The HTML5 spec is not yet official, and the proposal itself is still in flux. Some designers get hung up on that fact, but it's not really the trap you might think. The reality is that Safari, FireFox, Chrome, and Opera already support much of what's proposed in HTML5 (and CSS3 as well). The clunker is—not surprisingly—Internet Explorer, which still fails to support many actual standards that were agreed upon years ago. The larger goals of HTML5 are native support for audio, video, and the "canvas" element. While support for these does vary, the situation is actually far better than back in the days of IE vs Netscape. (Remember all that horrible code forking?) And consider this: YouTube, Vimeo, and many large publishers (think: news sites anticipating the iPad) are all migrating away from Flash to HTML5 video. The spec may not be final but there's a lot of momentum from key players.
- ukit0
"That takes me to about 5000 articles, none of which seem to answer the question very directly."
Actually the first result for "HTML 5 browser support" is a super detailed list of which browsers support what.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Com…
Lots of red in that chart:) Like stew says though, asking whether browsers support 100% of HTML 5 isn't going to be that useful of a question anytime soon. To put this in perspective, here's a similar chart from just a few years ago show browser support for HTML 4 and CSS.
http://www.webdevout.net/browser…
What's really going to matter to your client is how well-supported the features they want to implement are, and most clients probably aren't thinking about things like the <month> and <week> tag when they ask about HTML 5. You can see that <video> and <audio>, on the other hand, are supported (imperfectly) in Firefox, Chrome and Safari but not IE. The layout elements like <header>, <footer> and <details> are not yet supported at all, but they will be here soon for Chrome and Safari.
- boobs0
Well, if it's not happening with Internet Explorer, is it a practical thing to use? If the "partial support" for the good features doesn't extend to IE, doesn't that almost eliminate the practical utility for HTML 5.0?
- lukus_W0
As I mentioned in post #3, there is no 'it' - it's modular .. so it's not useful considering it as a whole unit in itself.
> Want to make use of a specific feature now??
> Check http://a.deveria.com/caniuse/- Instead ask whether it's worth using particular HTML5 features instead.lukus_W
- boobs0
To a certain extent, I'm dealing with marketing issues here. I mainly make Flash. (That may change, but that's what I do NOW). Now all these people are screaming "Flash is dead. It's all HTML 5.0 now," and I need to be able to shoot this idea down when I pitch to people.
I realize that the web is a constantly moving target, in terms of technology, and that at some point, Flash may be dead. But I don't want to move to the "next thing" if it isn't here yet.
- ukit0
It sounds like your clients are just reluctant to base their site in Flash because they know HTML 5 is coming, and are worried that would put them at a disadvantage. Most likely what they are really asking for is not so much HTML 5 but just a regular HTML based site that uses Javascript in the place of Flash.