restaurant site crit plz.
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- idiots0
look into the psychology of color, specifically food/hunger, freedom, money/spending.
the site has to convince the visitor they are a match for the site/food. was the experience good? informative? fast? it should be or they won't come to teh restaurant. does the site end up reflecting the service? does the site seem elegant enough that we want to be associated with its physical presence? is it enticing or jarring? the placeholder seems much more in tune with the space featured and lens a touch of sophistication. you're link is a mess. from page to page with no consistency
- idiots0
it's critical you get a better photographer/lens in there, that place looks cool, it needs showcased.
- idiots0
http://customhouse.cc/ looks so much better. build from that.
- lukus_W0
Think about why people will want to visit the site -> what information will they want to find first? -> what information should they be given (that they might otherwise not have looked for)?
- lukus_W0
No one will want to download the menu and view it in a PDF reader .. why not include the information in-line on the site?
- lukus_W0
All of your copy has been included as images, not text.
That's quite unacceptable - search engines aren't going to index your site.
- idiots0
if you're already doing all that, you're doing a pathetic job. (and I don't believe you)
- bigtrickagain0
any more feedback, from non-idiots...?
- idiots0
@bta "ejaculate his froth" fucking lol :D
RE: WP themes; most are built of includes that are called by master pages, so you could easily build a footer, header, sub headers, etc that build out a site that doesn't look like a WP blog. inside that modules you've built you add print functions for the custom fields. manage those in WP with magic fields and voila
- idiots0
you are not playing nice at all with wordpress
that looks ass and there is no conformity (we all see it)
if you wanted; you could build a custom framework of includes for WP, set some php print functions for custom data that isn't feed driven and through a bit of categories/tagging, have a dynamic menu driven site that publishes to twitter/facebook. instead you have some shit pdfs on a poor color scheme with a blurry background
- easy there tiger. i think he gets the point.sequoia
- custom framework of includes...? explainbigtrickagain
- no no by all means, let him ejaculate his froth in a forum where he is able tobigtrickagain
- hahaha!!OSFA
- BattleAxe0
you can use one of these calendars and still pull the data from a google cal app http://plugins.jquery.com/taxono…
- bigtrickagain0
@idiots: this is the crux of the question i am asking: i need to balance a nice aesthetic with playing nice with wordpress. the client obviously wants both. the images are a quick way to satisfy the client's needs for prettiness on sections of the site which will not need to be updated very much. the other sections, the ones without the static graphics, are the ones that need to change more frequently and thus a static image is not a viable choice.
when i say user updateable, i do mean cms driven, not instead of - the content is driven by wordpress and ideally i would love for all of the site to be this way.
- idiots0
@OSFA no, I'm not in a bad mood. let me explain.
if you followed the client approval process thread, it's obvious i have beliefs on design. i don't want an amateur doing valuable work like this for me. this could possibly be the face of someones business. sometimes there are threads for ae tuts and free downloads as if design is a hobby, then there are complaint threads as to slow or non payment. it is not both ways. if you want to justify your cost, this is a real business. social networkin link relevance and text indexing are part of what we offer, our best practice would be to follow best practice.
when your oping statement is i want the site to be user updateable instead of CMS driven that's a red flag, then when you find they have made an image of the hours of operation, that will not be wordpress "updateable" that's afield of red flags.
so either you do your job right and the car works again after the repairs or you get some lackluster cheap job and you wreck pulling out
- *takes idiot's advice, changes career to golf caddy*bigtrickagain
- did Utopian and monospaced have a child together?sequoia
- more like airey and magicpatchbigtrickagain
- version...7?OSFA
- I know what you mean, but u also have to consider that some of us here want to learn new things not as a hobby, but so that we can have an idea of things and improve not only our job, but everyone else'sOSFA
- we can have an idea of things and improve not only our job, but everyone else'sOSFA
- I rather ask stupid questions about AE than look like an idiot when the time for me to work on a project involving it comes...OSFA
- maybe version 7 because version 1 sucks. you shouldn't charge for a service you can not complete competentlyidiots
- idiots0
haha, d_rek and i may not agree on how to get to the end but we definitely agree on how the end should look/function :D awesome
- idiots0
at least when you click menu; column 1 is fluff text with hours, column 2 is the pdf menu links
my 2 cents: your design and user experience skills are non existent, there is no consistency or conformity in this experience
1. delete all of this as if it never existed
2. read a couple books on information organization and grid guidance/relevance
3. start over- damn, are you in a bad mood?OSFA
- "menu" page content was dictated by client :| gotta make them happy...bigtrickagain
- d_rek0
My first thought was the background was incredibly distracting.
Not much heirarchy to the navigation or typography either.
The light text on the images in the menu section is nigh illegible as well.
Also, is there anyway to style the calendar (forgive my ignorance, i do not know if this is possible). It feels slightly out of place.
Also, in the menus i see no need to have separation for each meal type if all you're going to offer is a PDF to download - just group them all on one page.
On a whole I think you need to exercise some compositional skill. Add some whitespace to your navigation and copy. Impose some heirarchy to your typography. And tone down the background, please.
- noneck0
Yeah, ditch the images for straight text that Google can read. I'd do the same with the PDF menus: get them out of the PDFs and into the site.
Try to get some photos of the food if possible.
- ok_not_ok0
Drop the BG. The rounded box feels very constricting..open it up and let it breath.
- bigtrickagain0
hmmm ok - i was wondering about the calendar/map thing too (anyone know of a good calendar app?!?!? see this thread: http://www.qbn.com/topics/621234…) - i might just take those out and replace with nicer non-google things.
good point about the menu being two cols of text - i'll see about putting more intuitive content in there. pdf menus is something i can't change - client decision there ):
thanks for the feedback so far, it's been helpful - keep it coming (:
- idiots0
- that's way to help the google indexing and CMS aspectidiots
- If you're going to have text as graphics, don't type set orphans and widowsmonospaced