Color question.
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- ismith
I'm not at school so I have no access to a Pantone swatch book so if someone here could help me out it would be great.
On your monitor in Illustrator, if you fill a box with Pantone Black C, does it look beige/khaki-ish when you bring it down to 10%? Is it supposed to? Better yet, what Pantone color is closest to the background in this:
^ That's not the final version but I don't feel like uploading a new image. I don't have direct contact with the printer so I'm trying to find out if I can get the image printed on shirts approximately that color (which I foolishly set as Pantone Black C 10% when I started working). I have never printed anything like this and it's frustrating because I have no time to think about it right now really.
- inkpink0
yes. Pantone Black C has heavy yellow in it. Do the CMYK convert. Use Panton Process Black if its printing CMYK, or make your own rich black swatch.
- ismith0
How do people normally specify shirt colors? I'm trying to find out now if shirts are going to be purchased based on an approximation of my color spec or if they are just choosing from a list of options. This is for a family member so I'm doing my best to work on it with what info and stuff that I have...
- can I say I want a shirt that's basically pantone black c 10%? seems odd to spec a fabric as a coated inkismith
- inkpink0
re. what swatch is closest; are you printing spot colors or CMYK? don't use a spot tint unless your limiting to 2 inks.
- inkpink0
so you're going to print the grey box? why not print on a grey tee, no box, and with the white bubble/shape as a ink instead.
- monospaced0
You can't technically spec a shirt to a Pantone color. The best you can do is check out the light gray shirts that the printer has available. You just have to spec the shirt that you want because different brands have different options. It's hardly perfect.
- Pantone colors refer to printer inks, and that's it really.monospaced
- ok thanks. my best bet I guess is to say the closest to black c 10% and get a proof? the press is in LAismith
- a photo of the proof that is. long-distance printing. bahismith
- monospaced0
I assume you're printing 3 colors--Black, White and Red--on a gray shirt?
- yes, unless they use my other version which is just black / white.ismith
- inkpink0
you just pick the shirt color out of a catalogue... american apparel or whatevr.
unless you're doing 500+ and a custom dye lot.
- yeah...don't even mention 10% Pantone Black C, they'll just look at you funnymonospaced
- I was your age when I started doing this kind of stuff too, but I didn't have QBNmonospaced
- damn... it's gonna be just under 500 I think. unless pre-orders soar...ismith
- well thanks for the help both of you, i know I'm partially spoiled by qbn...ismith
- 500 was just a number off the top of my head... you also need a mill and factory...inkpink
- and offshore production, so really more like 5000inkpink
- hehe ok. 500 would be fairly low I know, but even on 5-10k+ I don't think there's a budget for custom dyeismith
- inkpink0
and if you want to ensure your tee is printed properly, created a custom grey global swatch for the ground color and call it "GREY TEE" or whatever... otherwise there's a high probability they'll separate and print the grey as a pantone ink.
- Amicus0
@mono... actually pantone does have colour systems for both cotton and plastics. So technically you could spec a pantone colour if you go through a big enough provider.
- ismith0
also another quickie. i have black text and a red dot over the white bubble above. do i need to use pathfinder to knock that out of the bubble first or do I just leave it and let them print it on top of the white? i know the colors stand up but I've never screen printed anything before so I don't know how well the ink sticks when you overprint like that. I'm going to try and see a proof to make sure the serifs aren't fucked.
- ismith0
bump for my last question. also i got the printer, http://www.cprintables.com/e-sto… (tiny url if that link doesn't work: http://tinyurl.com/y8tbx62 ). scroll all the way to the bottom, "Natural". That seems about right I think, though "Tan" and "Sand" are close, but I fear they would have too much yellow possibly.
- and is there anything i need to know about setting up the eps?ismith
- fiver0
a layer for every color...
depending on what color tee you're printing on, you might want to print an underbase of some sort. it's up to you whether you want to print the text and dot over the white. it will appear slightly different than the same colors if printed over white.