F*ing Clients
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- NONEIS0
They cant fuck me here guys, they have a broken site, no source, and no rights to either. I am looking more for ways to convince the bastards to let me finish, just found out they locked me out of FTP...
- mynameisdave0
Perhaps talk to "your friend" and find out the reason for their actions as well as explain your business concerns? Depend upon how that goes, either finish the project and get paid in full, or drop the client and burn the bridge. No?
- akrokdesign0
sounds like your job is finish there. obvious the client is trying to out smart you. they have no plan of keeping you. nor do they care either.
- < not that they make any sense, but that i have seen before. clients can do really weird things.akrokdesign
- ex. they expect other to pay on-time but they never do. "classic".akrokdesign
- ********0
You should go postal on them?
- forbes0
ive had so much hassle doing work for friends before its not worth it.. its ALWAYS better to keep a friendship intact than to break it over work related issues so try to smooth it out somehow.
- ++ only work for a friend if its possible to do it for free and you can make it interesting...SlashPeckham
- ********0
Why don't they want you to finish the project? Would it be completed much sooner if your company took over?
- MSL0
I feel your pain - but you've learnt a valuable lesson: Never work for friends.
- NONEIS0
They gave me a week, thanks for all the input here guys!
- lumedia0
So how late are you on the deadline? It sounds like they want their site done and you are dilly-dally-ing.
- Late at delivering, little/poor communication, client fears worst, over-reacts ...comicsans
- well he is on QBN...version3
- well said, both of youProjectile
- Josev0
What did you say to the guy? I'm curious about where the problem/miscommunication/unreali... expectations were.
You should share this with us, I think it would be good to learn from. Often people on both sides overreact and take extreme positions. It sounds like that's what happened here.
- version30
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I guess I just don't get it...
- boobs0
Let's all fantasize about what really happened.
- ukit0
He slept with the client's wife
- EKUL0
- NONEIS0
I cant really post the exact email, not professional, but I apologized for being late (by 4 days) and laid out why he was not getting my FLA or source, and how significantly it benefited him to work with me, i.e. you will have to start all over. I think that spoke volumes once he went back and read the contract – I don't think he reviewed it before signing, just looked at the price and signed on the dotted line.
I did not take a "extreme position", in fact, this all started with a one sentence email from him ("send me the FLA today!")
I don't dilly-dally, I just have way too much on my plate, which is probably the greatest lesson I am learning – how many projects I can actually handle at once. I have "cant-say-no" disease.
- 4 days is not the end of the world. 4 weeks maybe. Dramatic are they?ETM
- Very very dramatic.NONEIS
- i have that disease too.lumedia
- Yeah, I was referring more to the client when I said "extreme positions". The suggestions in the thread were on the extreme side.Josev
- side. Clients are often unrealistic like this. Four days is not that far off of schedule.Josev
- hans_glib0
bump for this great brief:
"I am looking for an awesome graphic designer. I need a logo created for a web company I am working with. I run my own design firm www.la-la-la.com, but I am more of a developer than a designer. This job will lead to future jobs down the road because I am actually looking for a logo and branding partner.
Anyway back to the job.
The company is similar to Groupon, but has a different twist. They want a logo that is comical and stoneage"ish". My budget for this project is around <em>50-80<em> dollars. Like I said I am looking for someone creative and who has previous examples in the type of work."
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- mg330
Friend? Sounds like a fascist!
- ********0
I like the wife/girlfriend hilarious!
- Projectile0
It sounds like they've been stewing about the delay but have been too worried to tell you because they were concerned you'll scuttle the ship if they do... and now have unleashed hell.
What you need to do is ask them if they would like you to completely rush the final changes and give them a timeframe on that, and then give them a timeframe on a more complete job. Sucks, but looks like it's that or nothing.
I'm concerned about how you said you're really proud of it. When you put too much pride into, that causes you to be too perfectionist and ignore the client's needs. Yes, they have needs other than amazing design. They have budget, funcionality and more importantly, time needs. Design is just one of those. Clients with plenty time and budget exist, but are few and far between
Swallow your pride, realise it's just a job that if you're so proud of, you can always finish in your own time for you own purposes.
Sorry it's not what you wanna hear and I'm gonna get shot down by a load of people on here... but there's a reason they did what they did, even if it is done in the wrong way and a complete overrreaction... it is still a reaction.
- OSFA0
Dude, it is obvious they are done with you. They have not responded, they locked their FTP... I mean, that's a strong message to me. Fuck it, SAVE it, put it aside and move on... let THEM contact YOU and then you can talk.
If they want to go somewhere else, let them... you know they're gonna pay more and might lose even more time. And under no circumstance release their files, etc. That belongs to you until paid completely.
You have the upper hand here my friend.