this web design mess...
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- katekelly
...I'm not getting it.
I think there must be something wrong with me-- I'm a print designer...and cannot for the life of me wrap my head around html or css.
Am I being stupid? Or will there be a magical day when it all just clicks?
- version30
have fun in accounting
- airey0
nooooooo way. you are exactly normal. it is a complete mind-fuck.
the one tiny piece of advice i'd offer is to let go of the need to control everything. certainly print design allows for it but web aint like that.
try to adsorb as much as you can, knowing that you won't understand a lot of it and won't be getting the full story. it'll take time and patience.
it will click but realistically it's a case of some click and some 'fuck, this is killing me' for the rest of your web career. at least that's how i feel.
- airey0
also, and most importantly, a lot of what you learn will become out dated and obsolete so keep the mindset that you need to evolve with that changing landscape. i personally like the fact that a lot of what is true now will be irrelevant next month but some people hate it.
- katekelly0
^thank you.
I've been staring at a blank screen that i need to fill with html for about three hours...
- prophet0NE0
things will begin to click for you but it depends on if you're in a rush or not. and you better have patience and understand that there's alot of trial and error to get things just right in most cases - like when css, html, flash, layout, backend, etc. are combined into one gooey mass.
- ukit0
Maybe I'm being logical to a fault here, but I'm of the mindset that either you know it or you don't. There's no mystery or talent required here, just knowledge.
The great thing about web design is that there are so many good tutorials out there that anyone can learn this stuff if they want to. The bad thing is that there are so many complicated, interlocking parts that it can easily get overwhelming trying to understand how it all works together. So just make sure you start from the beginning and learn it all bit by bit.
The other thing is to focus on the important parts and fuck the rest. I consider myself a fairly competent front end developer now in addition to designer, but I never sat down and read the HTML spec piece by piece. There are a number of excellent building blocks out there to get you started, like the 960 grid framework that already solve some of the more mundane issues.
- I find frameworks are harder to use in the beginning, I wonder if it's different for most though.ismith
- ukit0
P.S....if you have any questions, ask away
you know how it is on QBN, no question too dumb;)
- katekelly0
how do i get an ul to be horizontal??
- flashbender0
- I was just going to say. There are hours of Dreamweaver and CSS tutorials there that will have you working in no time.CyBrain
- version30
lolz
- jerseyred0
another way to learn, and this is how I did it back when was a deductive process. Take existing code and start changing it to get a sense of how things work. Download a template here - http://www.templateyes.com/html-…, or wherever and start manipulating the code to see how css works with images and such. Least you won't have a blank screen anymore.
- raf0
It used to be so simple before standard nazis enforced "semantic" CSS, which was supposed to streamline and structure things. It was conceived by programmers, not designers, hence it is often anti-intuitive and makes no sense.
But when you look at it, it all makes perfect sense. Building websites is no rocket surgery and anyone could do it. Now, that it it is complicated enough for normal people to go "eh, fuck it" after a few hours of struggling with code, we can be well paid experts.
- like the phrase 'rocket surgery' gotta start using thatBaskerviIle
- I have this feeling 'rocket surgery' is going to be big..ribit
- I'm a doctor Jim, not an engineer.CyBrain
- A downside of lacking native fluency in a language is never really knowing if you're being mocked.. or upside?raf
- janne760
i have been there. now i can do everything on the web, just lost the art of designing a brochure...
- juhls0
A lot of patience and practice.
- Stugoo0
practice practice practice, re-use, practice, refine repeat till you get bored.
then learn js
- uan0
practice, patience and ask around on the web (first on google)