Graduate Placement
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- jeveritt
We are a small but busy creative agency based in Huddersfield, and looking for a recent graduate to come in and help us out on a few projects.
Please get in touch if you think you're up for the challenge, send CV's and a few examples of work to
- Dancer0
Do you not have to pay minimum wage now for work placements by law... just curious
- lowimpakt0
i would hope it is paid.
"Unpaid internships not only negate widening-access efforts, they devalue jobs and graduates"
http://www.timeshighereducation.…
- chossy0
calm down homos, the guy didn't mention anything positive or negative about pay yo!.
- trooperbill0
we're in huddersfield too and need an in-house link developer - great opportunity for a grad!
- crayz0
the term graduate placements normally leans towards paid from my last 2 months of placements and looking for placements.
- jeveritt0
We're not about exploiting graduates, im looking for some talent, with a view to something longer term. If interested get in touch..
- lowimpakt0
has anyone come across/used Consurgo??
- 23kon0
Check the moaners going on about pay for placements.
Feck, especially in this climate you'd be lucky to be even offered a placement.My father was director of a graphic design company from the late 70s til a few years ago. His advice to me, and in general, when i'd graduated and was looking for work was to approach companies and offer your services for free for a month or two.
yes, you'd have to have some pennies to see yourself through that time, but it increases your chances of getting a foot in the door even if the company are not looking for fulltime employees.
If you work hard and impress then the chances of you being taken on at the end of your stint are very high or if they are looking for staff in the future then you will probably be the first person they call.
- lowimpakt0
yea I am moaning about pay for placements.
the same way I moan about free pitching.
the same way I moan about everything.
we shouldn't accept things because that's the way it was done in the past. we need to raise standards in the design sector and improve opportunities.
if you can't pay you offer something of real value - and not just filling in on work you won/accepted but didn't have the resources to deliver.
- 23kon0
lowimpakt, thats nonsense.
having students in for free doing a placement will not lower standards of the design industry. it would mean more students getting placements and competing 'standard-of-work-wise' with each other to end up with the paid jobs.
- 23kon0
any company that would win work and give it to a student to work on should deserve to go down the pan anyway.
placements should be taken on as helping hands so they can see how the industry works. also good to get their input into the starting of jobs - like helping with concepts, brainstorming etc. their heads will be full of new ideas and should bring something fresh to the company.
it'll also give them a feelng of contribution rather than just chucking them into the mounting room and having them spend their time making moodboards for everyone elses crap.
- chossy0
I think lowimpakt makes a valid point, it's very very difficult for people to get jobs in design and in anything these days so to offer no money is a fucking punch in the face, also lots of incredibly talented people are not able to support themselves if they are offered a non paying job which is not good because you could have the next joshua davis stanidng in front of you and because you won't pay them then you won't get them and your company suffers because of this. Money is key to everything in a career and developing. It's an absolute necessity and is unquestionable.
- Working for a free trial will get your foot in the door before someone asking for £ still23kon
- neue75_bold0
it's up to the graduate to make the decision, personally I asked to be paid when I did my work experience and was lucky enough to get it.. I don't know about everywhere but in Canada you can get government subsidies for things like this, so the employers pays half and the government kicks in the other..
that said, if I was coming out of school and was able to get a placement at a top studio and could feasibly live without the pay, I'd still do it...
A lot of these top studios pay their actual employees peanuts because their client base is rooted in cultural work that is generally low paying, there's no chance in hell you'll change their ways, and nor should you, unless you start lobbying for the clients to start paying more...
- lowimpakt0
23kon, my issue isn't about student placements - it's about agencies (not necessarily the original poster) asking graduates to work for free.
We take on student placements from 1st years onwards. We don't have to pay them because we aren't giving them work that we are getting paid for. We immerse them in a working environment, let them see client meetings etc etc.
we just recently had someone work with us for a month. they contact us looking for a placement. they wanted to experience different work environments but they had some experience. We put them on projects, so we paid them. It wasn't much but it was something.
- graduates aren't students anymorelowimpakt
- that's a really great way to deal this issue, really..neue75_bold
- ********0
pfft our placement student didn't even make tea once, what a disappointment
- pff. you're in paris. that means wine for breakfast. lol.akrokdesign
- akrokdesign0
if the pay isn'tt that great it's okay but no pay is pretty mean. just cause he/she is a graduate doesn't mean they live at home with the parents and can take a no paid job.
of course the foot in the door is great. just make sure you don't break your leg. :-)
- actually a lot do still live at home... some commute mega far just so they can take the non-paid placementneue75_bold