When a client says...
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- Rand0
holy shit, you write a contract for a 3 fold brochure?
- <Scotch_Roman
- I don't think that's unreasonable. If money is involved and it's a new client (ie. hasn't proven they're trustworthy), I write a contract.bort
- yeah, it's two brochures -- a 4-6k job. It should have a contract.Josev
- Scotch_Roman0
I wrote a contract for three projects back to back. Logo revisions, roll-fold brochure, and larger capabilities brochure. It's a couple months worth of work.
- Scotch_Roman0
At least I was able to talk them out of using Rotis...
- bort0
I think you need to ask yourself if this is a client worth fighting for. If they're proving difficult to work with early on, that doesn't bode well for a long-lasting, fruitful relationship. Maybe they're just a client that you do good, competent work for, while saving your energy and ideas for other clients with more vision.
- Scotch_Roman0
I think I'll use this first contract as a litmus test, since I've agreed to do two brochures. If they are impressed with the first one and thus learn to trust me and give me the space to do what I do best, then it's a resolvable issue. But if nothing changes, they don't learn to trust me, and the next brochure is more of the same, then I'll know for sure if it's a relationship worth cultivating or not.
Thanks all for the input.
- NONEIS0
What client does not do this? Just ignore him and realize that clients only know what they want, and not what they NEED, that's where you come in.
- That's just the thing. I haven't had a client do this to me since I dunno, maybe 2003.Scotch_Roman
- It could also be that before going solo, I was shielded from more client nightmares than I ever knew.Scotch_Roman
- Vive la self-employment...Scotch_Roman
- jtb260
As an in house designer (and the only one) I get shit all over for pushing back against my "clients" suggestion. I always put forward what I think will work, but it becomes design by the shitty committee more often than not.
It can be tough to not come across with as having a bad attitude when you are persistent about your idea over whatever asinine shite you're asked for. (I was actually pissed on for this very thing this week)
- lukus_W0
This sounds very similar to the story about Paul Rand telling Steve Jobs where to go re. the NeXT logo. I think that you might been to be Paul Rand to get away with his argument though.