Scientology on Trial
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- lazerbass0
scientology was started by the CIA and is currently being used for various PSYOPs and media manipulation and exersizing mind control and coercion 'technologies' on normal people.
- Gucci0
I thought it was created by Hubbard.
- lazerbass0
Ron Hubbard was a military brainwashing researcher and so were the first top scientologists
- Pupsipu0
well I hope someone is still collecting data
- Jnr_Madison0
He was a CIA informant at some point, never herd about the him being a brainwashing researcher.
- ukit0
How does Tom Cruise fit into the military/ brainwashing angle?
Is it just a viral for Mission: Impossible 4?
- airey0
ahh, lazerbass. hubbard was a science fiction author among many other things. a failed con artist and coke addict being the premier talents prior to creating the bullshit psychology called 'dianetics' which led to what is now called scientology.
i'm actually hoping your cracking a little joke but i'm wary of the 'jamal jenkins' school of tinfoil hat wearing to be sure.
a good doco for a start is here:
http://video.google.com/videopla…
- lazerbass0
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=e…
he wrote a manuel on brainwashing
- I pictured a thin moustached mexican andi lol'ed a bit at "manuel".
sorry.Gucci
- I pictured a thin moustached mexican andi lol'ed a bit at "manuel".
- airey0
that manual. hahahaha.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bra…)
"Hubbard tried to present the Federal Bureau of Investigation with a copy, but the Bureau expressed skepticism about the document's authenticity. [3] The book has Beria using obvious Hubbardisms such as "thinkingness" or "pain-drug-hypnosis", and making an unlikely mention of Dianetics side by side with Christian Science and Catholicism as major world wide "healing groups"."
thinkingness. i like it.
- ukit0
Hmmm, interesting. Might come in handy some day.
http://www.xenu-directory.net/pr…
*bookmarks for later*
- sikma0
The details of the case as stated by CNN.COM makes it hard for me to believe they will be "shut down". It's really nothing more than a fraud case. Even if found guilty they will bounce back.They only way to defeat something like this is through education. Which is hard 'cause there's always someone looking for "salvation".
- yep. although in france they are not considered a religion as such so it could wobble.airey
- ukit0
The whole thing is fairly humorous, that the leader of a religion would actually publish a book called "The Brainwashing Manual." Shows there are few things you can't get away with in this world.
- and a also quoted once "I'd like to start a religion. That's where the money is!"airey
- http://en.wikiquote.…airey
- airey0
as for being a CIA informent, the jury is out on that one. he was a paranoid who thought the CIA among others was after him. as it happens they were in some respects. there's a mountain of info out there to read and so much of it is contradictory.
the thing is, if you only source your info from strong anti-scientology website (basically the tinfoil hat links from lazerbass) and books they aren't you accepting propaganda from the opposite side that you're railing against? an if you vehemently oppose them for accepting mindless propaganda shouldn't you try and not do the same? just a thought. not mine of course, i read it somewhere...
- I must admit I didn't research it heavily, just remember reading in on Anonymous.Jnr_Madison
- sikma0
Well put airey. Very well put.
- lazerbass0
a factual paper about teh cia and hubbard's dad and mind control technologies
- ukit0
I found this on the same wiki page:
"God was feeling sardonic the day He created the Universe. So it's rather up to at least one man every few centuries to pop up and come just as close to making him swallow his laughter as possible."
Maybe the whole thing was a joke?
- sikma0
Jnr that reminds me, whatever happened to Anonymous war on Scientology? Did they win? LOL
Just like that failed effort in a few years no one will remember this case and scientology will just keep on rolling along.
- There's still a few fighting against them, I think most got bored, lolJnr_Madison
- airey0
i've followed the guy for a long time. i'm in a strange place by being a huge fan of his fiction. Battlefield Earth is actually a fantastic read, just poorly made as a film. the Mission Earth dekology (10 massive books) was also good (for me) yet i personally detest the church. i'm all for personal beliefs but their extreme secrecy and shear money making - it costs a fortune to move up the ranks. you literally have to pay your way up the enlightenment levels - make it a shame that preys on the disenfranchised and the weak. not unlike most churches but at least most other churches at least pretend to be a service to both believers and non, whereas the scienticians (i love that word, made up by David Mitchell about something unrelated but works perfectly) are simply out for their own agenda. still that'sjust my opinion.
this is a good read from an anti scientology dude that has collegues that are scientologist si has actually thought it through: