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- Nairn0
Overprint preview's useful for when you're separating colours for a proper print process, right - like Litho or Screen?
If you're seeking to replicate that look for a digital process, either print or electronic media, you'd go my route, I think - no one's right or wrong here. Though, I'm probably wrong.
- Juan_Dumplo0
What's the difference between Overprint technique Baskerville does and change shape mode to Multiply? Is there any difference as it printed out?
- monospaced0
Overprint is a direction to the printer to literally print one ink over another in a specified place. Depending on inks and papers used, the result can differ.
Multiply is an on-screen technique that simulates a lot of what real overprinting does. Nairn is correct in that this is best for electronic media, but if the budget allows, real overprinting is very cool when executed correctly.
- Juan_Dumplo0
What if you print digital?
- you can overprint if you specify a separate run, but you're mostly stuck with a Transparency mode, like Multiplymonospaced
- I mean LaserJuan_Dumplo
- stochasticcreez
- BaskerviIle0
I agree with what's been said, the poster never said whether it was for digital or print. Blending modes are much easier and you can control them more. But I took the example of the purple poster to assume he wanted to replicate that technique in print, so either screenprinting or overprinting would be useful.
Otherwise sure blending modes are fine
- Juan_Dumplo0
I can print blend modes in my injekt printer
- you can also overprint if you only print one color per run through the printer and the colors overlap...I've done itmonospaced
- NiceJuan_Dumplo
- Nairn0
I was wondering about this beforehand - are there still differences in the implementation of layer modes between Illy & PS?
I swear they used to be fairly distinct, with Illy making a pig's ear out of it in most situations.
I'm only asking now because that idiot twat J_D chose to 'lol' the above comment. You fucking gormless prick, you.
- I'd lol cos of the ESKEMA question... Sorry bro. SorryJuan_Dumplo
- my question?ESKEMA
- sorry, that was a question yes.. :DESKEMA
- :)Juan_Dumplo
- Juan_Dumplo0
How is the process for print? you have to do 2 files? Like in the above same, picture in one file and in another file you have to add the shape with OPACITY? then print the second file over the printed picture??
- See? Utterly gormless.Nairn
- sorry manJuan_Dumplo
- No, you just specify the OVERPRINTING color correctly in ONE file and talk to the printer about it.monospaced
- it apply at Laser printing too?Juan_Dumplo
- horton0
i agree, layered transparency in Illy is no different than Photoshop and if anything for graphic pieces like this i would say if anything working in Illustrator would be better and offer more control.
one thing to watch in Illy is make sure your placed image matches the document colorspace. an RGB 'fpo' image with CMYK effects ontop can produce different results when you swap in your CMYK.
or better yet use a grayscale image file. save as a tif and you can fill and control the black's CMYK.
= superior control over PS, imho.
- 'fpo'?Juan_Dumplo
- sorry temp placeholder image.. for position only.horton
- johnnyklebitz0
Photoshop has way better control over transparency. Do it in there if you can.
- That's not true at all or in any way whatsoever. ESPECIALLY if you're going to press.monospaced
- ESKEMA0
- Multiply does NOT simulate an overprint as it multiplies the colors. An overprint actually prints OVER the black, muting it.monospaced
- hmm interesting i always assumed the converted CMYK results would be exact same, (CMYK) + (CMYK), but you're saying no?horton
- saying no?horton
- so for example, 100Y multiplied ontop of 50K does not equal 0,0,100,50... ? as it would inverprint?horton
- overprinting is NOT multiplying...overpr... is one ink OVER another, not something done in softwaremonospaced
- johnnyklebitz0
I think if you're trying to MIMIC the appearance of overprinted ink, you'll have better results in photoshop. if you're actually going to get the piece printed, then you would do it in illustrator as an overprinted spot color.
- why the fuck would you need photoshop??ESKEMA
- johnny, there is absolutely NO advantage to using Photoshopmonospaced
- lolJuan_Dumplo
- nadanada0
and i know that's a screenprint... just wondering if there's a way to do it in illy. gracias.
- Nairn0
nocansee.
- Nairn0
Try playing with the colour modes available in the Transparency menu. Keep the opacity at 100%, but change where it says 'Normal', then try in both CMYK and RGB modes, and you should come up with something useful.
As an exercise - do the same in Photoshop, in both CMYK and RGB, to learn the differences between layer modes.
- ESKEMA0
overprint