working with DW CS4...
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- tjw0511
Naturally I hard code both my sites and stylesheets in BBedit. With all of these new features in Dreamweaver upon the release of CS4 I dunno what to think. I've always felt most comfortable just doing everything myself and my boss seems to think if i grip the program that i should be able to code faster and sites will be turned over quicker. Have any of you made the switch from hard coding in a text editor to using DW or vise versa?
- tjw05110
vice*
- monoboy0
DW4s bloated and buggy. Try CODA instead.
http://www.panic.com/coda
- BattleAxe0
I do both, it is hard not to, as long as I have been using DW , I have not built a site on the visual tools alone. So while it can save you some time with tedious bits of coding, you will still hand code a lot for best results
- klu0
i've been using DW for a long time, and prefer it over the other editors. i rarely use the 'design' view, and mainly stay in 'split'. i do most of the work in code but like to jump down to the design to see the effect, thus 'split' works well for me. i think the main reason i like it is color codes my code, and allows me to cheat with the code by pseudo auto-completing. also, in DW CS4, i like that when you open your html file, any linked files (css or js) in the document are available for a quick edit without having to directly open those files.
- akoni0
use Textmate
- airey0
dreamweaver is great. for all this shite talking about it 'bloating code' it's horseshit. people were correct about that 8 years ago and forgot to take another look. opinions can actually change if you have a clue.
if you like to hand code then just do that in dreameaver. you use it exactly the same way as any text edit application but DW then adds the benfit of file management and automatic link updating (if you want it). as for it's css - if you know what you're doing it's no more bloated than any other app, it all comes down to the user behind the wheel.
- airey0
also, i've brought this up before but the difference with an example stylesheet i went through with a developer between a 'bloated' file and an 'optimised' one was about 1K and 3 hours fucking about. the page load with that 1k difference really made that user so much happier while loading a 28mb flv file also... still, maybe that 1k will add up, if say i view the same site in 200 open browser windows at the same time through my 28.8k dial-up modem. i could always be wrong. usually am.
- ninjasavant0
I use Dreamweaver in code mode.
- sherm0
I second that. DW in code mode. The visual mode is more of a point of reference to me. I don't even type in that view.
I like snippets too.
- raf0
I wanted to like Coda, I really did. It is a strong contender, but it gets on my nerves. It's its UI weirdnesses that get me.
There is Edit mode. Of course. And the Preview mode. But the Preview mode has its own Edit mode (when you click on <> in its bottom bar) that is identical to the original Edit mode, but isn't the same - it has different options. It is weird.
Another thing, in Preview mode you can click on elements and they get a round-corner highlight. It is very nice and looks practical. A DOM path appears in the bottom strip, which would be useful if it also highlighted the code in Edit mode (like DW does). Even clicking on the last element of the DOM path doesn't highlight the code (like it would in DW). The way it is now it is completely useless, it feels like a bug.
- Shaney0
Dreamweaver in code mode as above never gives me a problem, code highlighting, linked files etc all good.
All WYSIWYG programs inc DW if used in design view are pants and give more problems than they are worth if creating anything other than a 1998 splash page.
- fiesta0
USE TEXTMATE FOR FUCK SAKE