beige or grey?
- Started
- Last post
- 42 Responses
- sleepyfatso0
greige
- nilsnihil0
De Wolfe advised Americans to shun ostentation and clutter in favor of simplicity, to dismantle the draperies in order to let in the light, and to replace garish colors with beige and ivory. "I believe in plenty of optimism and white paint," she declared, "comfortable chairs with lights beside them, open fires on the hearth and flowers wherever they 'belong,' mirrors and sunshine in all rooms."- De Wolfe was also a holocaust denier, with a fetish for younger men which once led to a hush hush court casekelpie
- kelpie0
this insight from my own above note I feel deserves greater exposure and so I am posting it here now for discussion, tangential to the main thread of beige/grey discourse:
-
burbery = very bad cultural baggage / high fashion context = cultural labyrinth
- I for r one prefer aquascutumnilsnihil
- you really wanted that bit about cultural labyrinth paid attention to didn't you?anxious_arms
- I felt it deserved not to be lost in a side note, fine no?kelpie
- brill...building.nilsnihil
- mistermik0
that got tom cruise in?
- Fariska0
the answer is pink.
Neon glowing pink.
- mistermik0
plus grey is just a lazy term.
"it" can have very emotive names /term- what do you impose we use instead of the "term" grey? "Gray"?anxious_arms
- Orbit0
Burberry, it might be interesting to note, actually use grey in their checks to push forward the clay tones of beige. so in that sense beige is definitely the hero. Whether or whether not that is a contributary factor to Burberry's ever changing fortunes is remains to be unknown at this poink in time.
Contrary to your postulation though Kelpie, I would argue that as long as you buy the decent stuff with leather edging and straps, then Burberry do actually make some very good baggage.
- nilsnihil0
From her late twenties onward she lived with Elisabeth Marbury, one of the first women to work as a theatrical agent, representing among others Oscar Wilde and George Bernard Shaw. They spent thirty-three years together as a classic butch-femme couple, mentoring a whole generation of younger lesbians including Mercedes de Acosta who would become Greta Garbo's lover. Then de Wolfe up and married Sir Charles Mendl because she wanted a title. Now Lady Mendl, she expected nothing to change with Marbury, given that her marriage was completely platonic, and the women remained lovers for seven more years, until 1933, when Marbury died.
The next time you discuss outing and public figures and privacy, you might bear in mind that in 1926, the New York Times ran a front page story calling de Wolfe's wedding "a great surprise" because "she makes her home with Elisabeth Marbury at 13 Sutton Place." Not that everything can be explained by early experiences, but the woman who spent her life making things beautiful grew up listening to her mother tell her she was ugly. When she was seventy, Parisian fashionistas named her the best dressed woman in the world. She is immortalized in song lyrics by Irving Berlin and by Cole Porter:
When you hear that Lady Mendl, standing up,
Now turns a handspring, landing up-
on her toes
Anything Goes!
- kelpie0
oh *that* dewolfe?
ok, she was a lesbian and as far as I know had nothing in particular against the jews. no more so than anyone else back then anyway
- magnificent_ruin0
ligature = designer
- kelpie0
So do we conclude somewhat that the distinction between grey and beige is ill defined and open to the imposition of a contextually dependent framework of cultural associations and prejudice?
- bochenn0
Beige is the color the average people use.
Booooooring!!!
- nilsnihil0
http://books.google.com/books?id…
...."not beige but Merkin Pilgrim gray!"
- Orbit0
I think so, yes.
- johndiggity0
color of the universe:
http://www.space.com/scienceastr…
- Orbit0
I think The Stranglers summed up this whole grey vs beige debate quite succinctly when they sang... when they, sang... wait, that was Golden Brown wasn't it.
Well, Visage then. Fade To Grey.