Design School vs Working
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- adamm0
they need to know production, design is great, but wont do shit if the printer has to spend 8 hours on prepping shitty files.
- roundabout0
"To not be afraid of a non payed internship. The best hands on experience is an internship and to learn the ropes before becoming a star."
Rubbish, do not work for no money, it's a fucking job and not a Hobby and everyone doing a job deserves to get paid something, even if that is minimum wage.
- dontsueme0
Don't trust anyone.
- PonyBoy0
use a 'sip size' dixie cup when begging... it looks like you're not asking for much...
... but seriously - pretty much what everyone's already said... plus- teach them the value of protecting themselves and their intellectual property - contracts, learning to spot 'bad' clients, knowing when to say 'no'... and most importantly... the customer is NOT always right... especially when intellectual property is involved.
Another thing I can think of - value your sources / network / bridges... burn them at a very last resort. When stricken with the choice between 'the client' and 'your source' (perhaps another artist / developer you outsource to)... stop and verify the value of the client before killing the connection w/your source (after all... 'we' often get work from other people in our field - if you become known as 'the dick' in your field... don't expect much work)...
- akrokdesign0
ask if needed, there is no dumb questions.
- Oh, there are plenty of dumb questions.harlequino
- meaning...
if you don't know or aren't sure. ask! don't be afraid.akrokdesign
- d_rek0
Faster and harder. Not necessarily smarter though. Just fast. And Hard.
- cannonball0
A lesson about office politics and how other people make your profession not worthwhile for you.
- PascalT0
Charging less at first is good, it's important to build a decent portfolio base that brings you to the better projects and clients later on.
Your day should be 50% promoting yourself, 50% creating work and the other 100% servicing your clients and communicating with them.
Have a business card. A nice one.
Keep up with the new trends only on the side, try to create your own personal style that you feel is your own.
Money up front, as someone else said.
- rocknonstop0
"Try to find people to work with who are vastly superior to you. Your early learning curve will be that much faster."
I used to hear this kind of thing a lot when I was in school, but when I got out I never found anyone interested in taking the time to teach me anything. Do you hire students (or anyone else) with the understanding that you will have to teach them?
- ukit0
What about the old school method of taking an apprentice ship?
Seems like you would learn a lot that way.
- Melanie0
Don't copy styles and trends for the sake of "coolness" make sure the style suits the client and message.
- zenmasterfoo0
Waste as much of your time here as you possibly can.
- cannonball0
sucking penis is a good skill to have. send them home to practice on a banana
- showpony0
fuck being a rockstar. seriously.
- tymeframe0
Your work is the client's not yours. If the client is adamant about an element, color, typeface, etc., use it.
- meFUZZY0
Try to find people to work with who are vastly superior to you. Your early learning curve will be that much faster.
This is also a good time to push hard when you don't have as many obligation and ties as when you get older.
Sorry that's not business stuff per se, but still good for the recently graduated.
- doesnotexist0
business side of things and business law.
- temporary_name0
If you sit near the back you can do both.
- I'm sorry, I thought it said Design School vs Wankingtemporary_name
- magnificent_ruin0
shinebox. get.
- flashbender0
managing expectations. If you pay me $3000, you get $3000 worth of "cool" nothing more, nothing less. If you want $6000 worth of cool, give me $6000.
- How do you value $3000 worth of cool?rocknonstop
- cool is a relative term. I had a client who wanted "something like nike's site" on a budget of $5000. Not really possible. But that of course has to be >>flashbender
- of course, that has to be explained tactfully, which is a skill every designer needsflashbender
- you guys got it all wrong. You ask the client for 6k and when you spent it all on cool stuff, you ask for a bailout. it's how it's done now.PascalT