Burn a Million Quid - K Foundation
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- stem0
- WeLoveNoise0
fuck me
what a bunch of twats
- kezza_20
I thinks what's quite interesting is peoples reaction to it 15 years on. You have to judge it in the cultural void that the mid 90's were in England. It really stood out massively against all the dross that was about. They broke the way for all the Hursts and all them to come through. Trail blazers.
I love this idea for example
On 23 November 1993, the K Foundation presented their first artwork to the press. Nailed To A Wall, "the first of a series of K Foundation art installations that will also include one million pounds in a skip, one million pounds on a table and several variants on the theme of Tremendous Amounts Of Folding", consisted of one million pounds in £50 notes, nailed to a large framed board. Nailed To A Wall had a reserve price of £500,000, half the face value of the cash used in its construction, which Scotland on Sunday's reporter Robert Dawson Scott was "fairly confident... really was £1 million [in cash]". The catalogue entry for the artwork stated: "Over the years the face value will be eroded by inflation, while the artistic value will rise and rise. The precise point at which the artistic value will overtake the face value is unknown. Deconstruct the work now and you double your money. Hang it on a wall and watch the face value erode, the market value fluctuate, and the artistic value soar. The choice is yours."
I think they were all about making a point at the time in the UK, which now, given the times, looks insane.
But to young bucks like ma at Art school, they were the first people who show the way to something different.
- kezza_20
I mean when we were at art college we were being taught Bridget Reily or surrealism, then along came these guys who were so different.
Their music was party of the dance music revolution and their art paved the way for the british art scene we have now.
If I have a 20th the influence they had on popular culture...
and anyway Hirsts Diamond Skull is way more vulgar imo
- nah, their music was poppy and not really what was being played in the underground clubs of any repute.mikotondria3
- people were in fields not clubs as I rememberkezza_2
- the music was conceptual art itself!paraselene
- kelpie0
Bill Drummond is a genius and a leader of men and anyone who doesn't agree is a straight up cockhat
- kelpie0
and White Room is a work of art
- stem0
(Depression 2.0 thread) roundabout -
"I watch a Russian bloke on TV last night buy a 6 month old Porsche Cayman which cost 58K new, for 10K at an auction for people that have gone bankrupt. The guy was smiling like a fucking champ driving out of the auction house"
I think this artwork is questioning the actual value of tangible objects which are merely "signifiers" for the abstract concept of currency.
What is the true value of objects?
I thin a lot of people were pissed off at the thought of money being "wasted", however, if, for example these notes were not legal tender... what is their actual value?
The Chapman Brothers did a similar thing where the got willing people to que and have their banknotes doodled on, then signed.
However, by defacing the notes, made them illegal tender and, in theory worthless.
But with a "superstar" artist artwork and signature on them...
How does this affect the value if the physical object (the banknote)?
- Questioning the value of money (bank notes) is always interesting.Anders
- kezza_20
The KLF performed a live version of "3 a.m. Eternal" at the BRIT Awards ceremony, a violently antagonistic performance in front of a stunned music-business audience. Later in the evening Drummond and Cauty dumped a dead sheep with the message "I died for ewe—bon appetit " tied around its waist at the entrance to one of the post-ceremony parties. NME listed this appearance at number 4 in their top 100 rock moments, and, in 2003, The Observer named it the fifth greatest publicity stunt in the history of popular music.
That changed my life too :)
- kezza_20
not forgetting the Orb was an off shoot of the KLF
- stem0
To simply dismiss this stuff or call them wankers is being slightly ignorant to the world of economics and therefore the world in general.
Think harder you guys...
- kelpie0
ever see him in conversation kezza? went to a talk he was doing to promote his new(ish) book last year, he is brilliant.
- stem0
- autoflavour0
it reminds me of Damien Hirst for some reason..
no talent and way too much money
- sorry Stem, didnt see you mention Hirst already.autoflavour
- kelpie0
if only these guys knew that Drummond was actually sponsored through the whole thing by the Daily Mail and that the resultant sales generated by the outrage brought the whole thing in at a profit of over 3.7 million pounds...
- autoflavour0
isnt there a law against the willful destruction of currency?
i know its illegal in the US and Australia..- no, you can't deface it, but you can destroy it.Jnr_Madison
- yes. I heard they got fined but this is all hear sayDancer
- moth0
I was never outraged by it, I just think it's a bit crap like most art that had "shock" at the centre of it.
It's like the fat girl on reception telling you she's mad while waving her hands about above her head.
Both desperate for recognition as being slightly off the track.
- moth0
Yeah I counter-punched a two-pence coin at school once and my teacher threatened to cut my head off.
- Anders0
I appreciate the idea
- 23kon0
"nah, their music was poppy and not really what was being played in the underground clubs of any repute."
i disagree with that - i think they helped bring the underground overground and that their stuff was a good thing for music. their music was backed with sound effects of huuuuge crowds, they were "stadium dance music", listening to the tracks you got the feeling and rush of huge crowds - like at an outside rave.
without the KLF we wouldnt have had the likes of the prodigy and altern8 etc in the charts and hitting such bigtime.it was jimmy cauty of the KLF and alex paterson from the orb who created CHILL OUT on dat tapes. an ammmazing chillout album and groundbreaking in its own right.
the album "1987 what the fuck is going on" is a cracker too, it never saw the light of day because abba didnt approve samples so the duo burnt all the remaining copies. the klf did a lot to fight the laws that were against musicians who sampled.
they were a band that embraced limited editions and deleted tracks, a record collectors dream! i know a girl whos dad has a 2nd hand record shop. i was at a party at hers and she showed me the shamen and klf vinyl collection she had (knowing i was fans of both). She sold her KLF collection and bought a new car! thats how sought after some of their stuff is!
you CANNOT say their music is of no repute, sorry!