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- monospaced
This is bullshit.
- pylon0
yes. it is.
- designbot0
It's sweet....be sure and use lots of "swiping" effects....that one is very modern.
haha it's actually not that bad for it's intended use (presentations).
- Nairn0
Bullshit it may be, but the punters can use it and, frankly - what other option is there, really?
Crazy that web design's still so hard for normal people to accomplish - hypertext really should be an ideal presentation vehicle.
- mikkee19730
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- mikkee19730
^ oops. Ignore.
- Dancer0
Apparently Key note is so much better...
- it isBender
- much better.pylon
- yeah so much better that NO ONE knows how to use it!! hmmmm?thelukeandrews
- ian0
Keynote is the same shit as PP but with more gradients and shines. The clients prefer it but not as easy to distribute as PP and if you don't got a mac you have to export it in a readable format ie pdf, qt movie or for fucks sake, power point.
Sorry Ive had to use it recently and the experience was not a good one.
- I disagree. The great function with keynote is that save slides as pdf.epete22
- Dancer0
Hmmm... I must admit I have not even opened Keynote but I have been told quite resolutely by another designer that keynote wipes the floor with PP.
I do agree though it is certainly not as widely distributed as PP
I always create interactive PDF's for my clients.
- Ah no, Keynote has better text handing, and its easier to layout pages and the animations are better, all true.ian
- mikkee19730
Keynote is what you would imagine Mac's answer to PowerPoint to be: Better mechanically (smoother animation, e.g.) and stylistically (more refined 'auto effects' for whatever that's worth). But there's something fundamentally sleazy about the premise of these programs–to persuade others. And dangerous too, since it puts a vast array of design tools in the hands of exactly the type of people who should not have access to them.
- Kidswift0
why is there such fucking angst around power point. Its a great application for getting across ideas in a quick and coherent way. Especially to someone that has no background in design, its all about the message and getting it across in the limited window of attention you have have with a client. What other application can you customise a presentation on the go or change its format so quickly, I use it on a daily basis and fail to see what the problem is your doing it for the client not you the sooner you get your head around that the less time you will waste debating wether to use it and spend the time on making your presentation as tight as possible... here endith the rant
- I agree with this guykelpie
- I'm a freakin' designer, therefore PowerPoint is a joke! I'm mad because they won't take a PDF!monospaced
- I agree.Jaline
- MrDinky0
keynote f*n. just like powerpoint with less functions
- Ranger0
Keynote works intuitively whereas powerpoint is the complete opposite. As is word for that matter. I avoid both of them if at all possible. What's wrong with presenting in Keynote and leaving a PDF for the client if they want a copy.
- Ranger0
Actually - just present in Acrobat.
- briancopeland0
Having just spent a day restyling a PowerPoint presentation I can categorically say it sucks donkeys! It's also shit on a Mac at doing anything other than saying "ta-da, I've opened without destroying your computer"
- pylon0
Keynote and PP are dangerous to clients because, in my experience, it kind of makes them think that all that fancy AJAX, flash, and video trickery is totally easy.
client: "You just click a couple buttons in Keynote to make pages go all swirly... Why's it gotta cost so much / take so much time in Flash?!?"
designer: "Well, um....."
- ian0
Agree ranger. PP is probably the fucking shit if you're up to your balls in MS programmes all day and comic sans is a little light relief to make the presentation 'pop'. Keynote seems (in my limited and swear-inducing experience) a lot easier to use and to kern text, add better stock animations and is easier to layout a page without things flying all over the gaff. However, they are both fairly shit programmes to use, so Im glad I don't use em more often.
That being said, they both do simple presentations well when handled by someone who has a good eye for design, when a non-designer uses either of things get pear very quickly.
What I truly hate is being given a pp file by a client and told build the website like that. I mean I don't come over to their office and shit on their desks, do i?
- pylon0
Totally, Ian.
It is possible to make great presentations in either PP or KN but when the inexperienced get their hands on it, things go badly.
That can be said of any software, including *design* software. I guess the thing is that everybody get powerpoint included with office and has a go at designing their dynamic website on it and pawning it off on the hapless.
- lowimpakt0
as a wise man once said....
"if you can't design well in powerpoint you're just not a good designer"
- you made that shit upmonospaced
- "If you give a mechanic a spoon and he can't fix your car with it, he's just not a good mechanic"T-Dawg
- Vicentvangogh0
who in there right mind would even bother using PowerPoint in the first place?