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- Bluejam0
i hoping that it spawns 3-eyed monsters from a third dimension
- Nairn0
You're probably half-joking, BlueJam - but that's the only unexpected event I'd be 'worried'/interested seeing from CERN over the next few years.
If you suspend yourself from contemporary realworld standard model physics and imagine that all the energy forces at play in the universe are part of some superstring structure/matrix/fractal-type thing, then setting off 600 trillion energy pings in a limited-range frequency (in the next 2 and a bit years alone - rising to 600,000 trillion energy pings by 2019) might be akin to ringing a very specific bell to alien races across the universe.
Probably not, and I'm slightly talking out of my arse here - but it's no less facile and ignorant than thinking we're all about to get consumed in a singularity.
- What the hell kinda jargon does this "singularity" shit come from?Khurram
- Certainly stands a better chance of doing this than the Voyager project.SkyPoo
- O i know! Geeks came up wiv "singularity" 4 when AI takes over from Human intelligence.. But what are YOU on about?Khurram
- A 'black hole' is the event horizon from which light can't escape the gravitational pull of the infinitely dense ...Nairn
- ... single point in the middle - aka 'singularity'. Kurzweil uses it too, to refer to the chronological weave point ...Nairn
- ...where all the glorious testaments to man's genius join together to make us all like we are fucking Gods.Nairn
- My friend G, on the other hand, uses it as an unquestionable point of truth, when he's gibbering his nuts off on Ketamine.Nairn
- ...Ketamine. He's still not been able to furnish me with an adequate explanation of what he's actually gibbering about.Nairn
- I'm not holding my breath for that explanation, either.Nairn
- Kurzweil uses it in reference to machine intelligence superceding human intelligence.Khurram
- like everyone else...Khurram
- and i'm already a god.. dont have to wait for noffink.Khurram
- You're half-right, Kuz - a bit limited in your scope though. AI constitutes testament to our genius. And prolly folly 2.Nairn
- lol. That's a matter of opinion... But you're using "singularity" wrong,Khurram
- No I'm not.
If I am, show me.
kthnxbai.Nairn - It's not a term used by physicists to describe anything like wot u describe. It's a term used by tech geeksKhurram
- See technological singularity:
http://en.wikipedia.…Khurram - How stupid of me to question your ego, Kuz.
http://en.wikipedia.…Nairn - And trust me, this term has been around a lot longer than geeks have been wielding for their tech fantasies.Nairn
- (I am one of those geeks - turned on to this, and other such terms, by Eric Drexler back in the late 90s)Nairn
- mistermik0
wouldnt we know already? or not.
- eatbreathdrive0
Filter out the shit you dont need to know in your life. I do that and it works!
- blackspade0
Wow, I saw the youtube "LHC" rap video about all this, but didnt really get what it was about.
Its pretty exciting to think of what knowledge might come from this.
I wait in anticipation for 10 sept! - I wonder how long after which they will report on findings??
- It's a game of statistics - they might get a 'hit' straight away - it might take years. Error-checking means we won't find..Nairn
- ..out, in any concrete sense, for at least a year after the scientists have.Nairn
- ..maybe in, dare I say, 2012??
(half joking)blackspade
- Nairn0
For an observer falling into the event horizon of a singularity, time appears to remain constant, so we could very well be in one now. We'd never know.
Fuck man, the illusion of time itself is probably the result of some collapse sequence from the mother of all singularity events - the explosion that was the big bang (as seen from the other side).
- chossy0
If there was time travel or alternate fancy stuff, then how come I shat my pants that time in class and had to waddle off to the toilets, if there was time travel I'd have made damn sure I didnae shite my pants yo! ergo timetravel doesnae exist.
- or you could shit your pants at leisure knowing you could change them yesterdaymistermik
- blackspade0
dont think its been posted, if u havent seen - LHC rap
- kezza_20
hahahahahahaha
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth…
half way down a quote from someone:
"Such is the angst that the American Nobel prize winning physicist Frank Wilczek of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology has even had death threats, said Prof Brian Cox of Manchester University, adding: "Anyone who thinks the LHC will destroy the world is a twat."
- Kidswift0
Sweet Jesus Nairn did your parents force feed you the complete collection of encyclopedia britannica as a child or do you have script writers?
- heh, nah - I'm a twat with a NewScientist subscription - they had a big article on the LHC last week :)Nairn
- But yes, I did have the kids version of the Encyclopaedia Britannica when I was young :)Nairn
- LOL.roundabout
- roundabout0
What I would like to now is, If this machine fucks up at full power could it course a nuclear explosion?
- WeLoveNoise0
i wana know black holes or not
when they create their own world - how will then get rid of it if need be ?alt+f4 maybe ?
- Nairn0
The 'strength' of a black hole is directly proportional to the amount of matter/energy it consumes. As kelpie pointed out in a previous LHC thread, any created black hole will be subject to 'Hawking radiation' (negating the common misconception that 'nothing' escape a black hole). At the scales we're talking about here - a 'smattering' of proton-level mass, any black hole existing would quickly extinguish itself by radiating away its energy. Because it's an infintesimally small point, even if it were to accrete matter, it wouldn't accrete much - instead slipping in between the massive gaps we have in matter, to dissipate before it did any harm.
Black-hole formation in these terms has the chance to happen every day in the atmosphere above our heads, when cosmic radiation hits our upper atmosphere. The LHC is doing nothing that nature doesn't already do many billions of times a day right here on Earth. All we're doing is controlling the process enough to observe it.
- GiZounds0
I agree with your views, eatbreathdrive.