Politics
- Started
- Last post
- 33,755 Responses
- tommyo0
Just a thought, while I was reading about Madoff I started wondering:
Isn't Social Security just one big government run Ponzi scheme? Using the money from new investors to pay previous investors.
- Only if it gets dumped into the private market and someone makes off with all of it and leaves nothing for everyone who paid into it...TheBlueOne
- ...who paid into it...TheBlueOne
- But the problem here is that it's open ended...like a Ponzi scheme no? If at some point it's deemed 'not feasible' totommyo
- continue with the program. Then it's exactly the same outcome - newest investors get the shaft.tommyo
- Yeah, but no one benefits other than those that pay into it. You see the differenceTheBlueOne
- You mean gov hasn't used the funds for anything other than SS payouts? See what I mean?tommyo
- TheBlueOne0
"This was the year the financial system stopped working."
- omgitsacamera0
"If Proposition 8's sponsors plan to destroy lives, they should at least have the courage to admit it publicly.
- where does this quote come from?threadpost
- CA Atty. General Jerry Brownomgitsacamera
- ukit0
Vice President-Elect Joe Biden said the U.S. economy is in danger of "absolutely tanking" and will need a second stimulus package in the $600-billion to $700-billion range.
- threadpost0
Thanks to neverblink, I actually enjoy reading this thread again! Thanks sooooo soooo much again NB!
get this and use it!
http://www.qbn.com/topics/573603…
- KwesiJ0
dump
- TheBlueOne0
DUE TO RECENT BUDGET CUTS,
AND THE RISING COST OF ELECTRICITY, GAS AND OIL,
THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL HAS BEEN TURNED OFF.
WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE
Sincerely,
The Government
- ukit0
Obama's cabinet
- ukit0
- TheBlueOne0
"Bush Insider Who Planned To Tell All Killed In Plane Crash: Non-Profit Demands Full Federal Investigation
WASHINGTON, Dec 20, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Michael Connell, the Bush IT expert who has been directly implicated in the rigging of George Bush's 2000 and 2004 elections, was killed last night when his single engine plane crashed three miles short of the Akron airport. Velvet Revolution ("VR"), a non-profit that has been investigating Mr. Connell's activities for the past two years, can now reveal that a person close to Mr. Connell has recently been discussing with a VR investigator how he can tell all about his work for George Bush. Mr. Connell told a close associate that he was afraid that George Bush and Dick Cheney would "throw [him] under the bus."
A tipster close to the McCain campaign disclosed to VR in July that Mr. Connell's life was in jeopardy and that Karl Rove had threatened him and his wife, Heather. VR's attorney, Cliff Arnebeck, notified the United States Attorney General , Ohio law enforcement and the federal court about these threats and insisted that Mr. Connell be placed in protective custody. VR also told a close associate of Mr. Connell's not to fly his plane because of another tip that the plane could be sabotaged. Mr. Connell, a very experienced pilot, has had to abandon at least two flights in the past two months because of suspicious problems with his plane. On December 18, 2008, Mr. Connell flew to a small airport outside of Washington DC to meet some people. It was on his return flight the next day that he crashed.
On October 31, Mr. Connell appeared before a federal judge in Ohio after being subpoenaed in a federal lawsuit investigating the rigging of the 2004 election under the direction of Karl Rove. The judge ordered Mr. Connell to testify under oath at a deposition on November 3rd, the day before the presidential election. Velvet Revolution received confidential information that the White House was extremely concerned about Mr. Connell talking about his illegal work for the White House and two Bush/Cheney 04 attorneys were dispatched to represent him.
An associate of Mr. Connell's told VR that Mr. Connell was involved with the destruction of the White House emails and the setting up of the off-grid White House email system.
Mr. Connell handled all of John McCain's computer work in the recent presidential campaign. VR has received direct evidence that the McCain campaign kept abreast of the legal developments against Mr. Connell by reading the VR dedicated website, www.rovecybergate.com.
VR demands that the Ohio Attorney General and the United States Justice Department conduct a complete investigation into the activities of Mr. Connell and determine whether there was any foul play in his death. VR demands that federal law enforcement officials place the following people under protective custody pending this investigation. Heather Connell who
is the owner of GovTech Solutions, Randy Cole, the former President of GovTech Solutions, and Jeff Averbeck, the CEO of SmartTech in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Both GovTech and SmartTech have been implicated in the rigging of the 2000 and 2004 elections and the White House email scandal. Our prior request to have Mr. Connell protected went unheeded and now he is dead. "- Seriously, why the fuck does anyone fly in those little airplanes?? Esp someone who is about to rat out the Pres.tommyo
- ********0
Banks that are getting taxpayer bailouts awarded their top executives nearly $1.6 billion in salaries, bonuses, and other benefits
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/sto…
*bares toothless grin.... A-mee-ri-caaa
- ukit0
LAGO AGRIO, Ecuador — When the sun beats particularly hot on this land in the middle of the jungle, the roads sweat petroleum. A Rhode Island-sized expanse of what was once pristine Amazon rainforest is crisscrossed with oil wells and pipeline grids built by Texaco Inc. a generation ago.
And for the past 15 years, a class-action lawsuit has been winding its way through the courts on behalf of the more than 125,000 people who drink, bathe, fish and wash their clothes in tainted headwaters of the Amazon River.
Now a single judge is expected to rule in the case in 2009 from a ramshackle courtroom in this northern frontier town. Statements from a court-appointed expert suggest Chevron Corp. _ which bought Texaco in 2001 _ will be held responsible for the many oil spills and dumping of wastewater. If Chevron loses, it could be ordered to pay up to $27.3 billion in damages, though an appeal would be likely.
- TheBlueOne0
"The Bailout Explained
Young Chuck in Montana bought a horse from a farmer for $100.
The farmer agreed to deliver the horse the next day.
The next day he drove up and said, "Sorry son, but I have some bad news, the horse died." Chuck replied, "Well, then just give me my money back."
The farmer said, "Can"t do that. I went and spent it already"
Chuck said, "Ok, then, just bring me the dead horse." The farmer asked, "What ya gonna do with him? Chuck said, "I"m going to raffle him off." The farmer said, "You can"t raffle off a dead horse!" Chuck said, "Sure I can, Watch me.
I just won"t tell any body he's dead." A month later, the farmer met up with Chuck and asked, "What happened with that dead horse?" Chuck said, "I raffled him off. I sold 500 tickets at two dollars a piece and made a profit of $998."
The farmer said, "Didn"t anyone complain?" Chuck said, "Just the guy who won. So I gave him his two dollars back."
Chuck grew up and works now for the government. He was the one who figured out how to "bail us out"."
- KwesiJ0
U.S. votes against "right to food" in UN General Assembly
- omgitsacamera0
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036…
2:00 and 4:00
- ukit0
Flashback
- That's terrible on so many different levels. The dog is obviously screaming for help.TheBlueOne
- rylamar0
Editor of a local mag posted this on their blog today:
Is Bank of America Out Of Money? Or Is The U.S.?
I don’t want to start a bank run, but this is worth sharing. Normally when I deposit a check in my BofA account, it is funded immediately. But apparently nothing is normal in banking anymore. On December 8, I made a deposit. A few days later, a portion of it showed up in my account. The rest was being “held.” I called to find out why. Mumble, mumble, and finally this: “It’s being held.” Thanks. I knew that. Then yesterday I received a written notice of the hold, giving this reason for it not being credited:
"Confidential information indicates that the deposited checks may not be paid."
The check was a tax refund. It was from the U.S. Treasury.
- ********0
Behind Obama's win is a dark secret....
