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- johnnnnyh0
"There is a HUGE divide between properly trained developers and "developers". - absolutely agree 100% with this and rest of your point. I think it's worrying on every level too. Personally, because one realises one's faults and professionally becuase despite the gulf in skill levels there's still people out there making a living despite their skill set.
- maximillion_0
not sure why yr using quote marks as that's not a quote and you also seem to be agreeing with something you wrote in your own thread.
my point wasnt about developers but designers adapting to CSS & HTML
- it is a quote - see moth above. I never said this!!johnnnnyh
- johnnnnyh0
"creating web pages isnt just about how easy it is for the designers to adapt flats to html pages" -
The point I'm making is that while css is great in 9 out of 10 instances it is not 100% perfect. This would be fine except when one finds that there are things which could be done which now can't be done quite as efficiently (I use this word instead of easily as I'm not trying to short cut anything here).
And before anyone gets too worked up over this I never use tables for layout, but I do accept that there were things I used to do with a table that are now more challenging (three column layouts springs to mind for example which expand but do not crash back in on one another).
ASIDE --- I'm actually refreshed by having a real design/mark-up discussion on here by the way, rather than the usual boob and what's your favourite chat up line threads.
- Mojo0
- skt0
- Mellimelvin0
Quit tables in 06 haven't looked back.
- kelpie0
Personally, I'm still in a huff that browser developers never consulted me about whether the browser should be able to release smells as well as display visuals. Would really help me get that "pine fresh" feeel on this Forestry Commission website I'm designing.
- Midge0
i am with you - lets get these W3C folk in the corss hairs and take 'em down.
- skt0
I protested against the Forestry Commission once. Ended up on the Money Program.
True story.
- Jnr_Madison0
- ..not really.Jnr_Madison
- This looks exactly like one of my cats, and his name is Junior. Odd.MrOneHundred
- ismith0
I understand that they are each meant for their own things- but there's no denying in my case that using tables is the simpler solution. Less code and more consistency. Tables are loading as quick too... plus it's not ugly table code like Photoshop slice export.
- This is a serious mental battle with myself... practicality vs. conformity is what it's come down to I think.ismith
- If you really belive it is less code to build a table based file, you should try looking at something else as a refrence.NONEIS
- http://jeffcroft.com…ismith
- OnesandZeros0
i use both
- Jnr_Madison0
tables have a use: eating dinner.
- ismith0
I know tables kind of suck at being much beyond tables, but a grid is essentially a content/non-data table and to be practical, there is little in place to achieve a decent grid without using much more code than necessary with tables.
- ismith0
I don't want to spend all day clearing floats and typing writing out auto margins in JS, etc etc...
- Jnr_Madison0
I think there was a long discussion about this in another thread but I can't seem to find it.