Flash / HTML - SEO
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- nosaj
So I've notcied a few Flash sites that seem to duplicate the content in html under the fold.
ie: http://www.sarasotadentist.com/i…
The links in the html link to basic html pages. Not a duplicate of the flash content but good crawlable content like links to other sites.
This is an interesting approach to Flash SEO, anyone else have similar examples, ideas or comments on this approach?
- harlequino0
Wtf is with that tuxedo shot?
- PonyBoy0
that example is good...
.. they're actually using swfObject there (even though they didn't credit swfObject)...http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobj…
... what it does is allow you to create a full page in html - but use javascript to replace your content w/Flash... but you still get to have all that data on your index. If Flash won't load - the html will.
- nosaj0
I've used SWF Object a fair bit, but not this way. The no Flash html is
"If you are reading this, you either have Javascript disabled..."
Then the html seems to be hardcoded below. With the all Falsh navigation and not seperate pages how effective would this be?
- PonyBoy0
this works... there's just more data there (looks like alot of the data)...
... but that one 'div' labeled flashcontent gets swapped out... so everything else on the page isn't presented visually... -but it's still there to be read by search engines.
I've done this myself - it's works great.
To test this - search 'sarasota dentist' on google...
... your example site comes up first.
Anytime I do this (add all that extra info to the index that has swfObject active), the sites are always listed on the first page of Google.
Read up a bit on swfObject - Geoff Stearns (the creator) documents it well and even goes on to explain how effective it is for SEO.
- PonyBoy0
eh... i see what you're saying now...
... i quickly looked at the div that swapped the content... the flash pieces aren't full screen...
... but you're confusing me... cuz all that html IS on the page... scroll down?
All the links - the paragraph about the doctor appear under that flash... so there's no hidden html content on this index.
At least that's what I see?
- PonyBoy0
what a confusing site you posted. :)
It took me a few times looking at it (as I only really looked at it quick then went straight to the source)...
... but the index page scrolls down to that html content you were talking about. All those links are actually on the page - they're not just floating freely in the html.
- nosaj0
Yeah - it looks like an awkward approach to get the site indexed. I'm pretty sure they "retrofitted" an older Flash site to be indexable. Can there be any advantage to this approach as opposed to using the swfobject? It seems much cleaner.
- PonyBoy0
again... i'm still confused...
... all the content is on the page (those links you were talking about)... scroll the index page down (not the source code... but the page itself)!!!
There's no retrofitting etc that I see?... I just see a piece of flash at the top of the page... then some HTML below it...
... everything in the source IS visually seen on the page.
- nosaj0
Yes - they seem to have just added html content at the bottom far enough below the Flash so it wasn't completely obvious that it is there. I'm sure the site was origionally Flash only and this was added later on for better indexing. I'm wondering if this has any advantages because it is actually visible or just a strange way to try and get better SE positioning?
Here's another example:
http://drpaulcoleman.com/
- PonyBoy0
i don't see how it's better...
.. it's... ugly.
Why put all that crap below the flash?... just enter into the div that's replaced by the 'flashcontent'... done.
no ugliness - same outcome.
Whatever is written in that index will be picked up by the search engine...
... regardless if it's inside or outside of that div.
- nosaj0
Cool - thanks for the responses PonyBoy.
- fusionpixel0
I dont know if this is a good way to handle it on the user's side (experience) since some might get confused with the content all over the place.
I would use (as it was suggested before) hide the static content with swfobject or ufo and search engines would be able to crawl through the pages.