cops incite violence at summit
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- Witt0
hand=head
- M0NEYCIDE0
and they say they were just there to keep the peace.... with rocks and bottles and shuving old men around.
- 4cY0
Also don't feel offended blueone and nairn. i was not pointing at the regulars but at a lot of new ones here, that have posted a lot of things that seem painfully naive.
i apologize if i offended anyone.
now i am going to light a candle for canada.
- 4cY0
i believe that can happen also, obviously. it's a fuzzy world.
but two days ago - ecotopia activists destroyed a transgenic cornfield in the south of PT. The owner of the field had an heart-attack because all his investments were destroyed in a fewe hours by protestors.
what i'm saying is that activists (most of them so-called pacifists) also use violence to make statements.
You can say: "but they are right!"
But then you're going into morals.
And if we go into morals there's hardly any pacific solution for anything. You can't push "good" into anyone's hand.
Witt
(Aug 22 07, 14:03)FUCKING AMEN!
- TheBlueOne0
I see your point Witt, but ultimately the trade off we have with any State (in the Locke/Hobbsean conceptual space) is that we surrender to the State the use of Violence in use for the common good. Anyone can use violence of course and the State has the right to prosecute and punish those that use violence. If the State system itself is the instigator of violence against the general populace for reasons of control, etc. then it's violating the principle that it holds the sole license to use violence for the common good. It breaks the social contract.
Theoretically speaking.
- Witt0
FUCKING AMEN!
4cY
(Aug 22 07, 14:05)you a tad knave!
love,
- 4cY0
you're
- M0NEYCIDE0
yeah activist do use violence and murder (prolifers) etc. but in these situations they've changed a lot. Many of them have meetings first and are drilled on what to do and not to do and any form of agressive acts are stricktly disapproved of because it defeats the purpose for obvious reason. That's why these guys stuck out because they weren't listening to the other protestors and doing all the wrong things.
- TheBlueOne0
Sorry for jumping on you 4cy..this shit just pisses me off...it's just that it's not an isolated incident anymore...I really believe that democratic government and it's attending principles are in serious danger and it pisses me off. I get a bit foamy at the mouth with this stuff.
- 4cY0
whew.. what a thread.
i will light a fag now. even though i am not allowed.
before activists are all over me, a "fag" in this case is figuratively speaking. a cig.
- TheBlueOne0
well as long as you're not going to smoke a homosexual we're all cool bro...
- Witt0
you're
4cY
(Aug 22 07, 14:08)indeed.
i was j/k.
pun-sailing!
- M0NEYCIDE0
thanks for the translation i almost threw a few rocks
- 4cY0
Sorry for jumping on you 4cy..this shit just pisses me off...it's just that it's not an isolated incident anymore...I really believe that democratic government and it's attending principles are in serious danger and it pisses me off. I get a bit foamy at the mouth with this stuff.
TheBlueOne
(Aug 22 07, 14:09)me too. probably more than you. or used to. this drove me crazy when i was younger. until people started recommending me psychological treatment.
thing is, what can we do.
i sometimes hope some of you people are a little bit up in other arts like writing, filmmaking and what not.
or people they know of.the best peaceful manner to handle these things is exposing them to the masses by intelligent narrative.
- 4cY0
me too witt.
- Witt0
must be extremely hard to be a left-wing vegan gay and lesbian animal rights activists and get puffed by a detached dutch.
- 4cY0
THANK YOU YOU CUNTS. NOW I AM REALLY PISSED AFTER READING SOME MORE HERE AND THERE. IT DOES SEEM TO BE POLICE INDEED!
why si this not in our media?
as you you can tell by the all caps and bad spelling, 4cY is angry again.
- Witt0
ok that doesn't make any sense. i'm pushing it.
- 4cY0
must be extremely hard to be a left-wing vegan gay and lesbian animal rights activists and get puffed by a detached dutch.
Witt
(Aug 22 07, 14:13)hahaha, i'll print this!
- 4cY0
http://www.nrc.nl/europa/article…
this is in Dutch. but that is some news. or not.
EU has begged, without succes, to stop another useless execution.
congrats, Texas, on the 400th state organized murder.