Treacherous competition
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- Sifcri
Do i call my lawyer if my competitor give away for free a 30'000$ CMS license just to win a bid where we are running? I mean .. they did that just to have a low price ... Of course we cannot do the same ...
- ********0
seems like you should be asking your lawyer what your options are instead of assuming that you already have a case.
If you can get advice from him for free give him a call.
Based on your post I'm not really sure I understand what happened, please explain in more detail.
- Sifcri0
We were running on a bid to create a new project for a client that we work with since 1999. They ask to us and to our competitor to make an offer. Our competitor offer is 30'000$ lower than us just because they give the CMS license for free (that company is more bigger than us).
- paraselene0
30k for a proprietary cms is taking the piss anyway.
- ********0
yeah, wtf?
- ********0
So because they are larger, they can offer the CMS for free as a loss-leader knowing they can make back the fees in other areas..such as support?
Seems like simple economics to me.
- ********0
since they are giving away a license to an CMS and not a CMS it wouldn't be proprietary.
would it.
- paraselene0
even worse then!
- jox0
If I understand this correctly - your long-time client asked you to pitch a new project. They also asked the competition. And they are cheaper for whatever reason.
This is simple economics. My company deals with 200 lawsuits a year and this sort of thing happens five hundred thousand times a day all over the world. This isn't a lawsuit and the fact that you HAVE tough competition makes sure that the world economy stays reasonable. The coffee you buy at lunch isn't 200 bucks per sip and that gas isn't 50 bucks per litre.
If they're cheaper, tell them you're better. If they're slower, make sure you're faster. Filing a groundless lawsuit is what people who have already lost would do. Pointless.
- ********0
like jox said, sue em to hell!
- ********0
is this in america?
- madirish0
30k for a proprietary cms is taking the piss anyway.
paraselene
(Jun 1 07, 02:23)haha- not even close to true, para my dear. :)
while i will not ever back this practice personally, this is the tip 'o the bucket for proprietary CMS world, especially at the 'enterprise' level. i know of several that are flourishing and they will not even talk to you w/o 6 figures on the table. customizing goes up from there...
and what jox said is true. there is no suit, nor reason to talk to a lawyer here.
- paraselene0
more money than sense!
- madirish0
agreed.
but, on the other hand, there are a couple OS CMSs that can compete handidly in this areana... ;)
- mbr0
this is the business world. You can't ever assume anyone is a client for life.
- ********0
"There's one thing I don't understand. The thing I don't understand ... is every
motherfucking thing you're saying."
- momento0
You have no case. Either explain to your client why they should stay with you, or move on - it's business, and very rare to stay with a client since 1999, I am surprised they have, maybe they wised up to the fact that paying $30k for a license fee was (sorry to say) a bit of a rip-off.
What are you going to say in court 'But your honour, they are bigger than us and they offered to do this for free. We can't compete, it is unfair.'
I think not.
- Nairn0
lol designerror