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- OBBTKN0
Living costs? very expensive! (depending the area) not easy to get a rental, and you can get apartaments below this money, but you´re going to live with much rats ;))
The floor-price is very expensive, but there are plans to change this...
And yes, a junior designer here is payed close to this, 800-900 €/month.
BCN and basque country are going to be the Indias of design.
But is wonderfull to life here if you get an apartment near to a little town, and near to the sea.
If you learn some tricks can live with this money.
And food, wine and clubing is cheap even in some places!
Are you thinking on come with us?
- designerror0
WTF!! 1600/month as CD??
I make 2.5 times that as a Senior and I still don't think it's enough..
Guess Iceland and Spain is very different.
Well, regardless of pay, pick A for sure
- rafalski0
Are you thinking on come with us?
OBBTKN
(May 31 07, 02:02)I've always wanted to, just need to secure some location-independent income.. :)
So far, I am coming to bcn for http://www.summercase.com
- subversve0
nairn, while you're in bilbao, can you help me with something?
i was there a couple of years ago, and as i got off the train, i got a few looks from some very pretty girls. as i continued through the train station and to my hotel room, i caught more glances coming my way, even from women pushing strollers. the first night i went out, it wasn't any different, women were even coming up and flirting with me. now, i don't usually illicit this much attention, so it felt a lot like an episode of the twilight zone. it wasn't til the next day that i realized something... there weren't that many men around. it seemed as though the female population outnumbered the men three to one. then it hit me! the running of the bulls was that week in san sebastian! i'm not sure, but i figured that most of the men were out of town for the event.
while you're there, can you keep an eye out and let me know if girls still out number guys, or if it was just me? i'd like to know if i should plan another trip, as it was a fun few days :)
- OBBTKN0
subversve... you´re talking about san fermines in pamplona on July??
if yes, is True. You can see the girl percentage increased compared another month on this dates...
Time to meet chicks, but hold your balls for when the men return to town!
- subversve0
subversve... you´re talking about san fermines in pamplona on July??
OBBTKN
(May 31 07, 02:49)yes, that's it. bilbao was beautiful and basque women are amazing.
- OBBTKN0
Let your tentacles far away of our women man!
;))
- poomoo0
nairn, what do you do now?
salise, why are you getting 15 monthly payments a year?
- Peter0
can't claim much of your work as your own at mega-powerfull-brilliant agencies. Suprised they'd pay less though, but that's probably the position.
Count another a-vote from me.
btw did that studio ever settle on their tagline?
- OBBTKN0
Surprised me too...
But the way people do money on this agency is doing much extra hours, and i´m talking about CD, C and Designers, part of company´s policy.
And all packed in a brand new big building.
- OBBTKN0
And the winner is... A.
But i want my boss suffer a bit this weekend and he is not going to know until monday.
Cheers boys and girls. Fresh champagne for all of you!
- OBBTKN0
This is madness...
A have offered more flexibility, after B re-offered more money and now A re-re-offered more money, flexibility and future vision...
My ego is floating around the roof this moment!
- Nairn0
#a sounds healthier and who knows, with you at the helm, maybe you can increase the "Bright Future-perspectives"?
Personally, I'd rather be in a smaller team with a better position and bigger say, even if that does mean working on less than stellar clients.
I enjoyed my times in agencies, but.. meh.
- _salisae_0
when you say 'bright future, perspectives' what do you mean exactly?
- AndyRoss0
I think he means "window office."
lol
- OBBTKN0
when you say 'bright future, perspectives' what do you mean exactly?
_salisae_
(May 30 07, 17:17)I say those "you´re going to work for the greatest clients in the area, now and ever" the boss of B offered me. Is a company with great growing and big contacts here in spa.
- _salisae_0
it's seems more a matter of being self-disciplined while working job A. pushing yourself as a creative director and directing the company's client roster toward a brighter future for all.
or is that too much for them to take on?
if you're not looking to build your book then i grant you permission to rest on your laurels.
that is a tough decision though. i know how it can get when you don't feel motivated by your work.
- OBBTKN0
The thing is simplified like this:
Great REAL possibilities vs. sirens´s call.
Or i´m lossing something?
(I´ve been in a Big company in past for 5 years, and i know how this things works...)
I´m affraid of this way of life.
- rafalski0
flexibility and future vision now, you will end up posting to http://adverbatims.blogspot.com/… either way sooner or later ;)
- Nairn0
.."and big contacts here in spa."
*splutters
In Spain?!
Some Basque you are!
I'm going over there next week for a wedding - looking forward to a few days wandering incoherently around Bilbao (not in a British lager-lout fashion, I hasten to add!)