Jesus Shark
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- ********
- k0na_an0k0
don't you mean 'virgin mary shark?'
*smacks morilla with trout
- ********0
well i was referring to the little one,
but yeah I'll take the smack
- k0na_an0k0
*punches shark who is pretending to be jesus
- CALLES0
i'd hit it
- gramme0
*Unleashes Jezebel the lady-shark
- Mimio0
It's a miracle!
oh wait it's not.
- ninjasavant0
Keep your science off my jesus shark.
- k0na_an0k0
no kidding right...
*points at jesus shark lovers
keep your religion out of my aquariums.
- flagellum0
Parthenogenesis is cool, but it's a little scary as it indicates that the species is under threat, as stated in the video piece.
Frank Tipler has some really insights regarding this biological phenomenon:
"Virgin births have been extensively studied in Caucasian rock lizards [34], and also in turkeys ([35], [36]). There is one strain of turkeys ([35], [36]) in which more than 40% of all births are virgin births. What happens in these turkeys is that often a haploid egg cell begins to divide without being fertilized by a sperm cell. If at some point early in the cell division process, the chromosomes duplicate so that a diploid cell is formed, a normal turkey is born. This parthenogenetic turkey is always a male, because in birds, a male results if the two sex chromosomes are the same (a male bird has two Z chromosomes and a female is WZ.).
It is easy to induce a human oocyte (egg cell) to begin cell division without first being fertilized by a sperm ([37]-[40]). The oocytes thus induced to begin division can be either haploid or diploid. This human oocyte cell division is so easy to induce in the laboratory that many researchers in this field have suggested that virgin births may be quite common in humans, perhaps as common as identical twins, which on the average occur 1 out of every 300 births (Encyclopaedia Britannica, “Multiple Births”, 1967 and 2003 edition). This conjecture on the rate of virgin births could be easily tested. One would merely conduct a DNA identity test on female children who are observed to closely resemble their mothers. (Almost all virgin birth children would be expected to be females. The extremely rare exception I shall discuss below.) To date, no such investigation has been carried out, probably because of ethical objections. With human oocytes, again for ethical reasons, no attempt has yet been made to implant these virginally conceived fetuses into a womb. An attempt was made a few years ago to complete a virgin birth in a marmoset monkey [37], but it was unsuccessful. Because of a peculiarity in the centromeres of primate cells (they are inherited from the father), I myself suspect a primate virgin birth could result only if a diploid oocyte started to divide. Of course, in every case of a virgin birth, all the genetic information has to be already present the mother. There are at least three ways to generate a male human being from genetic information which comes entirely from the mother. I shall discuss only one such method here (for another, see [18], p. 44, and below.).
I propose that Jesus was a special type of XX male ([44]-[49]). Approximately one out of every 20,000 males is an XX male. Such males are normal in behavior and intelligence, but have smaller teeth, shorter statue, and smaller testis than normal males. They are usually identified as XX males because they cannot have children, and ask doctors to cure the infertility. Normal males are XY, but there are only 28 genes on the Y chromosome, as opposed to thousands on the X chromosome. Of these 28 genes, 15 are unique to the Y chromosome, and 13 have counterparts on the X chromosome [41]. The gene with counterparts on both the X and the Y chromosomes are called “homologous genes.” An XX male results when a single key gene for maleness on the Y chromosome (the SRY gene) is inserted into an X chromosome. I propose that ALL (or at least many) of the Y chromosome genes were inserted into one of Mary’s X chromosomes, and that in Mary, one of the standard mechanisms used to turn off genes were active on these inserted Y genes. (There is an RNA process that can turn off an entire X chromosome. This is the most elegant turn-off mechanism.) Jesus would then result when one of Mary’s eggs cells started to divide before it became haploid and with the Y-genes activated. (And of course with the extra X genes deactivated.) If a sample of Jesus’ blood and/or flesh could be obtained, my proposal could easily be tested by carrying out two distinct DNA tests for sex: (1) test for the Y genes and (2) test for two alleles (different gene forms) of X chromosome genes. In other words, a male born of a virgin would have two X chromosome genes for each of its counterpart Y gene. Normal males would have only one X chromosome gene for each of its Y counterpart gene. This pairing would apply to each of the 13 genes on the Y chromosome that has an X counterpart.
Such a Virgin Birth would be improbable. If the measured probability that a single Y gene is inserted into an X chromosome is 1 in 20,000, then the probability that all Y genes are inserted into an X chromosome is (1/20,000) raised to 28 power, the power corresponding to the number of Y genes. (Assuming that the insertion of each Y gene has equal probability, and these insertions are independent.) There have been only about 100 billion humans born since behaviorally modern Homo sapiens evolved between 55,000 and 80,000 years ago ([74], p. 704). The number of humans that have ever lived is roughly computed as follows. In the first 60,000 years of modern human existence, there were roughly 10 million humans living world wide, with complete replacement every generation, roughly every 30 years. With 2,000 generations in 60,000 years, this means 20 billion people lived in this period. Over the next 6,000 years, humans had agriculture, which allowed the support of a population of roughly 300 million. With 200 generations in 6,000 years, this means that 30 billion people lived in this period. Finally we come to the modern period, essentially the period of the people now living. There are now 6 billion people in the world. Adding all these numbers gives about 60 billion people as the total number of people who have ever lived.
Thus, the virgin birth of such an XX male would be unique in human history even if there were only 2 such Y genes inserted into an X chromosome. (I assume an upper bound to the rate of virgin birth is 1/300. Then the probability of a virgin birth of a male with 2 Y genes is 1/(300)(20,000)(20,000) = 1/120 billion.)"
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- ninjasavant0
can somebody sum that up for me? I'm very busy.
- ********0
it's not a miracle. never was.
- ninjasavant0
is it friday?
- barbtastic0
omfg fagellum is soooooo long-winded... and that's just what we see on the internets!!
- emokid0
^yup
- flagellum0
It's not a miracle when animals reproduce this way. It's a biological fact. It's just incredibly rare.
- barbtastic0
^
the real miracle is that you kept that under 20 words
- flagellum0
lol
- gramme0
flagellum uses circular breathing.
- ItTango0
Ah, well...
The "Jesus" was crucified by a stingray that shared the same tank. (no joke)
No word as to whether a Judas fish was involved.
Guess we'll see what happens next Easter.