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- Bullitt
Got a client I'm working for, who wants me to charge them by job per quote, instead of by per hour, on the basis I'm working remotely and not at their workplace ( guess it's down to trust)
What are your thought's on this? anyone else work this way, and how do you lay that down?Cheers,
- k0na_an0k0
half up front before you begin. the remainder when the job is over.
if they want a flat fee (3000 for a site) or whatever, figure you want 75 per hour, hour by hour figure out how long each step will take you. times that by 75 per hour and that is your cost for that job.
- jr_fartbox0
i still quote on how many hours i feel is neccessary to complete the project. and a couple days on top of it just incase a problem comes up or the client asks for revisions. they always ask for revisions too so count on it. overquote overquote overquote or you'll get screwed.
- woodyBatts0
Also add a clause that stipulates if they extend the work, add a section or whatever...it costs more.
This sounds obvious byut I have had clients have me quote them on a website, then they want to add a content management system, and think it's all built into the original price.
It seems silly but trust me on this one!
- Daro0
Most of my clients ask for a per project quote, so what I do is guesstimate the time it'll take me to complete the project in hours, multiply by and hourly rate and add a cushion for extra hours. I estipulate that it's only a couple of revisions, any changes thereafter will have to be re-quoted or charge on an hourly basis.
- rafalski0
what woodyBatts said, specify precisely work the quote covers, as the only sure thing project scope will grow - it always does.
- Bullitt0
good stuff guys, thanks.
the problem I suppose I got is how to charge though for other type's of mediums. ( do print work also ) Eg: I got a corporate ID to design, what would you charge for something like this? base it again on by per hour = quote or value of company, I dunno.
- blaw0
everyone's got you covered. just remember that it's your responsibility to watch out for scope creep.
regarding varying mediums, i would estimate each piece separately.
- tkmeister0
cover your ass in every way possible.
contract, contract, contract.
also, if they don't have a PM writing conference call log and email you, you do it. so what's discussed over the phone is also covered. always protect in writing. and trying to get as much money doing as little as possible.
- linearch0
do what woody said, but also define iterations clearly. this will help you keep control of hours.
for example, in the design portion of the contract, say they will get 3 iterations of a home and two interior pages(or whatever)....this will allow them to have input and make changes to the design but will keep it in check...let them know that after the 3 iterations, if they want more it will cost them....
really helps me.
- -sputnik-0
i do this all the time, but i get 30%-50% up front, my contracts are highly defined and they know that if they go over then the hourly will kick in. i make them sign again if that happens.
- joyride0
Sections 4 & 5 of my contract:
4. Non-Estimated Fees
4.1. Any additional hours required to complete the project beyond the hours estimated in the proceeding pages will be documented and billed at a rate of $XXX.00 per hour up to 20% over the cost of the original estimate.
4.2. Client will receive itemized billings weekly for such hourly fees performed.
4.3. Any additional billable hours beyond 20% of the original estimate will require client approval in advance of such work being performed.
4.4. Client shall not be charged for services performed by XXXXXXXXXX resulting from technical or mechanical failures, neglect or misconduct by XXXXXXXXX.5. Payment
Payment is based on initial estimates required to complete the amount of work determined by communication between XXXXXXXXXXX and Client relative to project scope, design and functionality.
5.1. Payment
50% of payment required prior to start of any work.
5.2. Payment of Non-Estimated Fees
Itemized invoice with detailed costs payable upon receipt.
5.3. Late Fees
Late payments will have +1.5% added each month until current.
5.4. Payment options
Please inquire if other payment options are desired and/or available.
- Bullitt0
again, thanks a lot guys.
- e-pill0
Bullit-
http://yay.kenwallacedesign.com/…;)
- joyride0
thanks e, my contracts a hybrid of a bunch of things, the ken wallace stuff is in there for sure.
- fliplike90
I usually define each job and estimate the total hours including changes. Also important to specify the job wether it's design, production, etc. Like everyone said, Charge an up front fee counting it as a commitment to the contract. And include hourly charges for anything over your estimated hours. You can make more money that way.
- skelly_b0
I like flat-fees. I usually make a lot more money that way. Every once in a while it can pinch you, but I profit in the end.
Overestimate, work quickly and you will do well.
And like everyone else is saying make sure the deliverables are understood by everyone.
- Bullitt0
great advice, think that should do, cheers for that link e-pill! my missus is a lawyer, Il get her to localize it :)