SEO + Flash
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- SLAZ
is there such a thing? can sites be buit using flash that are completely SEO friendly? I have read some articles from both perspectives, yes and no, and wonder what your opinion is.
have you created a SEO site in Flash?
- Mimio0
Short answer is 'no.'
You can do some things with sitemaps/indices, alt content, and deep-linking that help results though. There are some other techniques too that involve feeding flash content from flat files (xml) and also generating html includes that get hidden from the same file.
- Mimio0
Also the last thing I mentioned is highly contentious. There's talk that Google is going to expand it's definions of gateway pages to prohibit techniques like that.
- SLAZ0
would the xml files you reference for the flash be crawled? would they give relevence like h1 tags?
- SLAZ0
i also have read some articles on Google how they are indexing .swf files, but it does not specifically say if they are indexing the text in the files or now, seemed like it was only the file names.
maybe it could be "keywordshere.swf"
- ********0
http://axia.phoenix.edu/#title=T…
this site is an example, fully indexable by google. 100% flash
- madirish0
a huge leap forward to this goal, is loading your copy remotely and on export from the data store; cache those items to another location visible on the same server instance for spiders to crawl. this effectively doubles up the content on the box, but replicates all requests to the server, thus allowing for updated, clean records for google.
- Mimio0
Right, the idea is render out html from the xml or use another server side technology(asp/php) to parse the xml to CSS and then hide it with CSS. On a MS server you can set a server process to create these html files which follow the site structure automatically. Anyway, that's the general idea of using deep-linking to flash from these "ghost" html files (that basically never display)
- ********0
I can never figure out why, if the text is actually part of the site, google would care
- jpea0
by using javascript to write out the flash (ala, swfobject), you can write whatever you want in the div that's replaced, soooo...
take the xml file you used in your flash site, and just parse it using php/asp/jsp/whatever and voila. you're done. google won't even know flash is on the page because their bot supposely doesn't parse javascript, hence, your page will look just like an html page. the power of using the same data over and over for multiple shit.
- MediaPimp0
http://www.fila.com/us/eng/home - totally SEO friendly... if you turn off javascript in your browser, you'll get an html version of the site, which gets indexed by search engines.
- SLAZ0
the fila site interesting, i was actually at a web analytics conference and Fila presented their site. Fully flash, fully seo friendly with a massive analytics program for keywords and tracking.
- madirish0
Fila was done inhouse, right MediaPimp?
- smielke0
Exactly what Jpea said.
- MediaPimp0
Fila was done inhouse, right MediaPimp?
madirish
(Apr 12 07, 08:35)Yeah... they started an emarketing dept for it. Myself being the second of 3 creatives and two devs to work on it. I ended up responsible for all of the AS involved while the other two creatives handled design and two devs doing the back-end work.
That was an awful long answer for a simple yes or no question, eh?
- jevad0
v. nice work on that fila site man
- MediaPimp0
v. nice work on that fila site man
jevad
(Apr 12 07, 09:59)thanks jevad