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- ukit0
GORE/ OBAMA 2008
- flavorful0
I'm really happy Obama made the first steps into becoming a true political heavyweight.
However.
To be honest, he does not have enough experience.
He didn't two years ago when he shook the states with his speeches, he didn't three years ago when he was a lawyer.
The ticket to win it, is Edwards/Obama.
Edwards is in tune with what is needed, Barack is in tune with what is needed.
Democrats pick your battles.
Don't everyone rush to have Obama be something he will be, right now. America, is great, and America is not ready.
There are already factions in the Democratic Party who refuse to acknowledge him as an African-American... they want him to be recognized as an African-African-American, because he didn't 'live' the experience.
Now, that's another argument, however, this is what we are dealing with.
Let the public get 4/8 years of impeccable performance at the highest stage.
It will happen.
Edwards has what it takes, and it's just not the South.
I was a big Wesley Clark fan before it became apparent he had no idea how to talk in front of a camera.
Edwards is it. He has 2 years to ruin himself from me, but he is our best ticket.
And I mean that with all respect, haha.
It's just a fact, and when you think about it ... a good fact. That John Edwards would be a great leader.
I just really hope people don't get caught up in the 'woman'/'black' aspect of this, and really look at the best candidate.
- hydro740
Obama is cool, but i place more of my faith in Edwards.
- PonyBoy0
i dunno... i could see a lot of folks from the D side voting Rudy if he was the nominee...
... after, he's loved by the 'pubs per the 911 'america's mayor' tag he had to wear...
... and Dems will love him for his stance on abortion and gay rights etc...
... plus he's articulate, seems 'balanced' mentally etc...
... now that fucking YANKEES cap he's often rocking needs to go...
Edwards though... eh... he destroyed himself years ago...then to go and show up in the spotlight w/the MASSIVE house of his in N. C. and still preach to the poor people on leveling the playing field etc(meaning socialist type promises such as uni healthcare etc)... just doesn't fly.
- Seff0
im happy to see wesley clark back in it, hope he has a strong campaign team this time
- mrdobolina0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rud…
The fundies arent going to get behind this guy.
- PonyBoy0
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The fundies arent going to get behind this guy.
mrdobolina
(Feb 11 07, 09:36)
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agreed... can't see a fundamentalist/idealist from EITHER side cradling this fella...... but I can see plenty of 'main-streamers' waiting to jump on board
- mrdobolina0
republican candidates need the fundie vote.
- ukit0
"Giuliani's first marriage was to educator Regina Peruggi on October 26, 1968. It was annulled in 1982 after fourteen years, according to Giuliani, because he discovered he and his wife were second cousins[54]..."
Seems like stories like this might turn voters off, no?
- mrdobolina0
haha just a lil bit.
- PonyBoy0
absolutely ukit!!
- ItTango0
FLAVORFUL:
I read your "comprehensive report" and I can't say I disagree with any of it. I was also a Clark fan and like you, watched him stumble on camera.I'm not as moved by Edwards, though, but it's early. I'll stay tuned.
Obama's "nubie" status is a concern for me as well. Still, the discussion of his inexperience seems trivial in the presence of the "office temp" we have running this place now. No?
- Seff0
- frankosonik0
flavorful -- have to say I disagree. The American voter will not be concerned with 'experience.' They're looking for change.
Bush has over 6 years experience, how's he doing?
If anything, his best chance (and a great one at that) is as the outsider. If he aligns himself with another candidate, he'll lose all that makes him appealing and risk being associated with the other's policies and mistakes for the rest of his political life.
He is the only strong candidate that has always been against the war. That is HUGE. Hillary can't say that. Edwards can't say that. He does not have a contradictory voting record. Only relevant thoughts and an ability to persuade. How refreshing.
He'll never be this hot again. Obama, stay on your own and you'll be smokin' KOOLs in the oval office!
- Seff0
smokin kools... nice.
and by nice i mean, not really. we are never going to get past the n'bomb factor.. fuck
- mrdobolina0
that poster is nice, seffzilla
- frankosonik0
Seff
Pointing out a preference in a particular brand of cigarette is not quite the 'nbomb' category. Neither is a poster of a girl with a fro holding up a black power fist.
- Seff0
are kools Obama's preference?