use of frames
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- pond
Hi I'm quite new to websites and at the moment i am learning everything so i can make a portfolio. One of my questions is what is wrong in using frames when the outcome is like these following websites. I dont want to use frames if they are really bad, but surely these websites are appropriate for there purpose?
http://www.wordsarepictures.co.u…
http://www.danieleatock.com/
- HelixDnB0
Frames are bad - sorry chief.
- version30
http://www.superfamous.com/empir…
http://newstoday.com/
http://www.k10k.net/reeeeeal baad //
i think what he means is don't suck at it if you're going to do it, in general though, i agree with Helix
- emokid0
it depends on what you are using it for. i think frames work well in the first link you posted -- that site uses iframes. newstoday.com uses iframes too and it works rather well. regular frames (like in the second link you posted) are more of a problem.
if they work well for your purposes, go for it. i personally dont mind iframes if they are used well.
- Nairn0
yep, if you're new to html, frames are fine - just keep it simple. you should consider looking for javascript to 'pop-out' the frameset, to cover search engine linkage and user fiddling etc.
iFrames are a simple, elegant means of utilising frames, but in the long run you should try and look into simple php to pull your pages together.
- Nairn0
..er.. php/asp/whatever..
- pond0
thanks for the help
- pond0
hey nairn, one more thing do u know of any links or sort of searches i should be using to learn about how to achieve that sort of thing in php? thanks in advance
- Nairn0
a concise overview of the basics can be found at http://www.alistapart.com/articl… - the rest of the site is worth digging through too.
- skambidt0
I'd advice you to avoid using frames - if possible at all.
1. Search engines/robots don't read what's in your frames.
2. Frames can make your whole site harder to overlook and to rewrite.
3. Frames often reduce usability.
Read more here: http://www.accessibility101.org.…
(This article also covers how to use frames if you must)
- ********0
in my humble opinion, there's nothing wrong with frames.
they can be useful and part of the craftmanship of a website, in a given style.
// Better yet: for elitist web-wigs like myself, frames are as good as arabian horses.
// don't follow the hype. div-css-mongers are a bunch of jacobites with porno avatars in secondlife. scum o' th' earth.
- jevad0
Just like anything - in the wrong hands frames can bring great injustice. Use them well and you will be fine.
- version30
got to admit, they make it easy to play with code
- jevad0
ace!!
- ********0
seriously, working frames can be a part of a website and its design, if they show up like frames and pretend not to hide themselves.
- st33d0
If you're new, go frames. Ajax craziness take a while to code.
That said. I'm trying to combine Java, XML, Flash, Perl, PHP and Javascript. I'm thinking of calling it Cillit Bang.