This is bullshit
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- mrdobolina0
//mpfree studied rocks in college dude, and spent time in afrika or afrique or whatever other pretentious spelling of africa he wants to use, look out he is an expert on the subject.
- -sputnik-0
//mpfree studied rocks in college dude, and spent time in afrika or afrique or whatever other pretentious spelling of africa he wants to use, look out he is an expert on the subject.
mrdobolina
(Jan 9 07, 14:21)can we PLEASE keep this even remotely civil. jeez.
- madirish0
shhhhhh!!!
*trying to get jaz-nay to admit-tay that globalwarming-ay is real-tay....
- version30
couple weeks ago in ks-
that's a cow.
so shut it
- mpfree0
the geologic rock record says otherwise about CO2 level paleoenvironments
I don't really want to dig up all that info again, far too lazy
- mpfree0
couple weeks ago in ks-
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that's a cow.
so shut it
version4
(Jan 9 07, 14:23)that cow is on fire version4, a regular barn-burner
- version30
nah, he's just cjillin' ;)
- mpfree0
//mpfree studied rocks in college dude, and spent time in afrika or afrique or whatever other pretentious spelling of africa he wants to use, look out he is an expert on the subject.
mrdobolina
(Jan 9 07, 14:21)actually, you're right I did.
of course //you know more than me about this
and yes you're on ignore
- mpfree0
Geochemical mass balances are used to estimate the partial pressure of carbon dioxide in the terrestrial atmosphere in paleotimes. It some instances it appears that the partial pressure was much greater than anything we've seen as humans.
However, imo, there are far too many variables in the equation.
Everybody is guessing and using rhetoric to push their own agendas.
mpfree
(Dec 12 06, 20:27)
- ********0
geologic time and polar ice cap time are far different things. It is true that in the earths 4.5 billion year old history it was hotter in Precambrian times, BUT humans, primates, mammals or any endothermic organism didn't and couldn't survive under those conditions.
For our species, in its 130,000 year history, this is the hottest ever recorded, and way off the cyclical charts.
- -sputnik-0
i guess the mcphee/mrdob argument in the 'global warming' thread spilled into this one?
*escapes to eddie van halen thread
- ********0
rock time does not equal human time.
Also, like yourself, I studied the sciences. But unlike you, as an academically trained scientist, I base my opinions on cold hard empirical evidence justified by observation and the scientific method.
I challenge you to find evidence to the contrary that in the last 15 years are within a normal cyclical temperature/CO2 range, and keep in mind, we're only going back maybe 1 million yrs, as this is the time period for life on this planet exists as we know it.
- version30
fortified is obviously in the wrong thread, may i direct you to the "Know It Alls"
- mpfree0
geologic time and polar ice cap time are far different things. It is true that in the earths 4.5 billion year old history it was hotter in Precambrian times, BUT humans, primates, mammals or any endothermic organism didn't and couldn't survive under those conditions.
For our species, in its 130,000 year history, this is the hottest ever recorded, and way off the cyclical charts.
fortified
(Jan 9 07, 14:32)what in the sam hell are you talking about?
Precambrian!? That's super ancient.
CO2 levels during the Mesozoic Era, which includes the Jurassic (maybe you've heard of it from the movie), Triassic and Cretaceous Periods. Endothermic animals lived during this time period as well among dino's. It's subcategorized and range from 65 to 250 million years ago.
We are currently still in the Holocene Epoch, part of the Quaternary Period, part of the Cenozoic Era, etc. in case you were wondering. And there are dated rock formations in this geologic period that contain higher levels of CO2 than what you see today for various reasons, one of them being vulcanism.
- mpfree0
...keep in mind, we're only going back maybe 1 million yrs, as this is the time period for life on this planet exists as we know it.
fortified
(Jan 9 07, 14:40)you're greatly misinformed. not really any sense arguing with you
- ********0
As I said, I challenge you to point me to an academic consensus that says temps/CO2 were higher at anytime in the history of the homo genus.
- mpfree0
no you didn't you said "life on this planet."
I ask you to show me an academic consensus on any viewpoint.
btw, during the Cretaceous, mammals were flourishing
and the last time I checked mammals were endothermic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mam…flowering plants developed and radically changed the landscape. Most of the land mass was at or around sea level until the mid-Cretaceous, a time of high tectonic activity (continental plate movement) and accompanying volcanic activity. Toward the end of the Cretaceous, there was a drop in sea level, causing land exposure on all continents, more seasonality, and greater extremes between equatorial and polar temperatures.
- mrdobolina0
Everybody is guessing and using rhetoric to push their own agendas.
mpfree
(Dec 12 06, 20:27)Whenever anyone on the other side of this argument talks about agendas it is laughable, I mean we know what exxon's agenda is. Profit.
What exactly is an environmentalists agenda, protecting the environment?
- mrdobolina0
and honestly, have any environmentalists been caught paying scientists to further their agenda? Like how we found out exxon has paid scientific think tanks to push their agenda?
bitch, please.
- ********0
surely your kidding when you say there isn't an academic consensus concerning the data about temps and CO2.
What I said was life on this planet as we know it. Which is really about a million+ years time, or around the beginning of the Pleistocene.