pixel pushing protocol?
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- ********0
If you pass a psd onto someone for coding (if it's realistic) you should expect it pixel perfect. If you, as a designer, have decided that the top margin should be 16px then you don't want it to come back as 22px. If it does, get it changed. But you shouldn't have to ask.
To respond with "you should just code it yourself, because that's what I do" just makes you sound like a wanker, again. Agencies don't always work like that.
- rupedixon0
whats wrong with just communicating properly. If you talk to the developer then everything will be fine. It's all part of the process, call it fine tuning.
If the developer won't budge, then they're not being professional are they. you also may have to show some flexibilty if you have proposed an unworkable design.
What developer would claim to know best about design issues?
And what designer would tell a developer how to do their job?
If you communicate properly the problems just don't arrise...
- Engage0
I agree with rupedixon.... I think days should of gone by now where you psd fiels to turn into sites...
prototyping should be prevalent in every studio by now
- arylone0
as a css developer myself itry to be as pixel perfect as i can, and when i dont i expect the designer to ask me to change things (4px here, 6 px there)
A different instance is when, for accessibility reasons, i get to code using ems instead of px; in that case is a little more difficult to be pixel perfect.
- Engage0
or when you get a design that is exactly 1024 * 768... .thats always a good one
- mistermik0
you should have coded your own html css and this wouldn't be an issue. if all you can do is make a psd, you are in no position imo.
i get work because i provide the code for the cms to be built into, not just an image comp
version4-----
so what - he / she isn't concerned with your skills.
- kelpie0
the ems thing requires serious communication, I've sat with a programmer for a whole day, with both of us fiddling around with teh code to get that shit to work. terrible pain in the arse but very rewarding when you finaly get to your pixel perfection...
- arylone0
the ems thing requires serious communication, I've sat with a programmer for a whole day, with both of us fiddling around with teh code to get that shit to work. terrible pain in the arse but very rewarding when you finaly get to your pixel perfection...
kelpie
(Jun 30 06, 05:30)what i try to do when using ems i take screenshots of the site in the browser and then in PS i compare it to the psd
- kelpie0
FF has some great extensions for that sort of thing, css viewer etc...
- version30
lots of complaining going on in this thread, i say expand your capabilities and the regular crew come in and start saying cock, get over yourselves, seriously
- ********0
"...get over yourselves, seriously"
version4
(Jun 30 06, 07:32)hahaha.
- version30
point made
- ********0
if you were making it to someone other than me, then well, I guess you might be right.
- tkmeister0
i think html developers should be able to follow the design and make changes accordingly.
many agencies don't let designers code like mentioned above, so you should communicate clearly. i have provided some design guideline in the past where it specify the size and etc. it helps to set a clear standard.
if you can do it all yourself, that's great and if you are in that environment where they will let you all, then even better. but it's not so in many places.
- imadesigner0
Well I love to start a nice controversial thread!
Version 4 - in answer to your post, the code required for the site I'm working on is far more advanced than my HTML skills- requiring back end integration, payment authorization etc. Which is why I enlisted the help from a developer.
Are you saying that any project someone takes on they must be able to complete all necesary tasks? What ever happened to working in a team and making the most of each others skill sets? Your comment sounds very narrow minded!
- version30
imadesigner, cool.
as a freelancer, yes, i am required to have things prepared for cms/database before it leaves my hands
however, reading this thread has shown me that studio work is quite different in that one will design and another will code
which thinking about it, sounds strange only because i have ideas in my head how i will accomplish my design in code as i work, it would be wierd to be handed an image and told to code it. i guess i could though
i do my own work as well as take on smaller projects for other outfits, firms, companies, i work with/ know
it's the business we do i guess
never the same day to day or person to person
- imadesigner0
Interesting indeed!
At the (very large) agency I work at the designers do the design and then hand it over to tech to do the build - usually this all works fine, but in the past channels of communication weren't as good between the 2 camps as they are today. The best example I can think of is when a designer had spent the best part of a month designing a website for a very large client. The site HAD to be 100% HTML, but when the designs were handed over to tech, they took one look at it and said there was no way it could be HTML because the designs were too complicated/ extravigant - Flash was the recommended route. It all ended with a very pissed off client, and an embarased designer...Enjoy the weekend, it's sunny here on London!
- susan-deaux0
The developer should be able to make it exactly like the PSD. Need a new developer?