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- psv780
Are you in LA? This sounds very much like a company I just left...
CincodeMayo
(May 30 06, 14:08)-----------------------------
Of course you just left! You are asking how to do a CMYK file in another thread....
- jevad0
that might well be - but you are still using pixel fonts in flash.
touche.
- CincodeMayo0
Of course you just left! You are asking how to do a CMYK file in another thread....
psv78
(May 30 06, 14:40)------------------------------
Touché! I had a brain fart...and I figured it out! And I left for a MUCH more prestegious company with much better hours. So CMYK or not, it was a good move.
- barbtastic0
you got snaked!!
- neue75_bold0
overtime is all I have in my life...
- fusionpixel0
one time when I was working at an agency we had a presentation and the GM says
Point #5. Creative team will work after hours when needed without previous notice.
I was like WHAT?!!?!?! and this only applied for the creative team.
Fortunatelly I was out of that company a few weeks later but I still think that is an abuse.
- skelly0
i've always been told to expect to stay after sometimes, even often. but if it's expected every single day they're just taking advantage of you. either poor time management or squeezing out extra free labor.
- Soler0
10%-20% Increase is fair- As far as OT- does not exist for exempt (salary) employees. So, this is ur only chance- make sure you're happy. Where I am now I asked in my interview the hours and they stuck to them- I'm not willing to put in the unpaid overtime for chumps anymore. good luck
- CincodeMayo0
Yeah, definitely find out upfront your hours.
I ended up working 60+ hours a week, when I was told in the interview that I would occasionally need to stay late. I'd finish my work right on time (if not earlier) and I was given something else. Just make sure they're not using you.
- AndrewH0
no one ever got rich only working a 40 hour week.
be glad you have the job, do your tasks well, dont watch the clock or think about the overtime. if you do, you'll never make it.
- Mimio0
If you own your own company overtime is fine, it's to be expected. When you're salaried and you average more than 5-10 hours of overtime per week, you better be getting compensated for it.
- Vandal70
Dude, that's happened to me before.... I always use the following equation:
(A + B) > C -- do it
(A + B) < C -- don't botherA = Will this produce good portfolio work?
B = Am I willing to sacrifice for the position?
C = The Position of DOOM!
- spendogg0
the only job I have had in the creative business where hours were predictable was on the client side. any agency or studio has always been 60+ hours a week. Just because the work needed to be done and no one else is gonna do it for you.
- susan-deaux0
Thanks for all the comments.
One last question for a bit more clarity, as there are some mixed responses in the thread, and I really don't see myself as the lazy, browse the internet, stay home sick type.
Living in a place with fairly high rent, at what salary does working 50-60 hours a week become a non issue for you?
Thanks all.
- ********0
no one ever got rich only working a 40 hour week.
AndrewH
(May 30 06, 18:16)lol
- jevad0
fuck I work 70 hour weeks sometimes - on crunch jobs...and a lot of the time I am at work till 6.30/7 just tying things up and getting work ready for the next day. Of course - in our industry that is a given. I do it - and I don't complain (mostly) because I want the company I work for to succeed - and because, even though we don't get paid overtime - the company I work for recognises the extra effort, and come salary review - it is rewarded.
I never even bothered to ask at my interview what the hours were - but if they had made an issue of it by saying or having it written in a contract that the work day was 10 hours - you bet I would want to be paid for those 10 hours in full.
- ********0
what's that business school rule, 70/30 rule thing or what. total bs.
- ********0
work sucks.
- jevad0
Work does suck. I'd rather be golfing, or hanging out with my family and dogs. But most of the time I love what I do at work and being there. I love that I go to bed and wake up not dreading going to work. I don't flip burgers - I get paid a good salary to design things...to play with colours and typography. To animate and code in flash...shit I would be doing at home...for free.
Every now and then I think about that and get a good chuckle out of it...especially when i read stuff like this:
- ********0
CHUNG IS KING