Who uses Flash?
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- fifty50
How many of you web designers out there are still producing 100% Flash web sites? It seems the whole Web 2.0 movement is bringing back a lot of simplified, XHTML/CSS-based sites back into the spotlight and I haven't seen a Flash site in a while.
- Engage0
fifty50
(May 5 08, 01:45)
- wristtattoo0
just trying to get a web connection on my PSP to see how it copes with Flash with the new fangled 2.7 update.
- Engage0
its not to bad... the main thing is getting used to not using a mouse... also full screen is a little weird but haven't had a chance to properly test yet.
- fifty500
Ok you caught me, I'm from the future
- Dancer0
fifty50
(May 5 08, 01:45)
Engage
(May 5 06, 01:49)CSS/XHTML does not even enter Engage's vocabulary
;P
- Engage0
trust me it does at the moment :(
must be more to life than this
- rafalski0
Remember when standards came in and to some extent all JS/dhtml was banned, because of "what if the user doesn't have JS turned on?".
I saw this as a step back in the history of web then, especially that I never saw a modern browser with JS turned off.Well, it bounced back with huge impact when dhtml was renamed ajax and suddenly JS is good again.
Flash is still bad, so I guess we can expect an explosion of stunning flash sites in about a year or so, just with better flash/nonflash switchability.As far as I know, mozilla peeps are working on kicking flash out with JS-DOM/CSS/XHTML/SVG combo (plus sound control standard which name I forgot)
AFAIR Firefox 2.0 will ship with SVG built in, it might eventually get interesting.*throws AS books through the window
- kelpie0
I don't personaly subscribe to the view that any technology should be overlooked in a medium that has to communicate so many different things to different people. Some of the programmers I know are positively evangelical in their hatred of flash though, they have easier arguements to fall back on too. "think of all the blind people browsing the site!! flash is the devil!!!!" etc etc ;)
- Engage0
so its alright for a flash site for sunglasses then.. phew!
- kelpie0
horses for courses, mate ;)
- fifty500
The worst is that I just got a client requesting a "Flash intro" to their site. Remember Flash intros? I tried to talk them out of it but they were very insistent on having one of these trendy pieces of shite from 2001?
*shudder*
- rafalski0
"think of all the blind people browsing the site!! flash is the devil!!!!" etc etc ;)
kelpie
(May 5 06, 02:19)
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Sometimes the effect of smooth transitions is just as important as content itself. I mean, huge part of the message lies in the form.
Think of all these Group94 photography sites - they wouldn't be doing the same job if they were built to standards in xhtml. They look money and that's their purpose.
- kelpie0
integrate it, give them a flash banner or something, they won't know the difference
- fifty500
oops, looks like a rogue question mark found its way in there
- rafalski0
Won't blog homepages in 5 years be what splash intros are today.. ?
- wristtattoo0
engage! - just downloaded and installed PSP V2.7 to try the Flash. Problem! I am not wireless connected where i am today so i can't enable the player. Is there any way around this?!
*shakes head in doubt.
- Engage0
put some flash files on your sd card?
- kelpie0
I totaly agree rafalski - don't get me wrong, I like all that stuff - I'm frequently the one beating my head off a wall trying to justify it in my work...
- Engage0
its all about not over doing flash i reckon... We've had people say we want a site like ?????? that you've done because we don't want a flash site... and we have to go er... that is Flash :)
- wristtattoo0
engage - swfs are on the sd card, still no go. looks like you have to enable flash via WLAN first. i'll fiddle for a while to see if there is a way around it.