Pantone - CMYK
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- agentfour
Whats the deal with these Pantone to CMYK swatch books? Im trying to match a cmyk colour to a pantone and some of these cmyk buildups they use dont look anything like the pantone. They all look dull and washed out. surely there are better matches than the ones they have prescribed?
Anyone got any better ways to match pantones to cmyk?
cheers!
- HumanMale0
That's the idea isn't it?!
It's to show you how rubbish a Pantone colour will look if it's printed in CMYK.
They aren't supposed to be similar!
- Baskerville0
Exactly! The CMYK are how those colours exist in 4-colour.
Typically colours such as strong blues and oranges are notoriously washed out when printed in CYMK.
Hence Pantone exists to let you get those vivid colours.
The pantone-process book lets you compare and hence avoid the colours that won't print well in CYMK. Or use pantone inks for those colours.
Remember, Never trust your monitor!
- kelpie0
(or Baskerville ;)
sorry.
- MLP0
the CMYK book is so you can see how a process color will print because youre monitor isn't how it will print. they're both right.
reds and oranges are especially dulled in process.
- agentfour0
thought that was the case.
So heres my scenario.
I want a bright orange(1505). The bright pantone looks crap in cmyk ie, c0m38y76k0.
I also have to give the client pantones for fture reference. If i know that nothing will ever be printed in spot colour, would i be best off giving them a cmky buildup of like c0m60y100k0?
and not even bother giving them a pantone reference?
- skt0
If they are never going to use spots, then yes. Give them a cmyk.
- kelpie0
give em both, it'll make you look clever when you explain the difference
- agentfour0
but if i give them both, should i give a different cmyk colour to the one which matches the pantone? they wont know what the hell is goin on.
- Baskerville0
Surely the answer is simple.
Never ever use any oranges or blues in any design EVER!
- agentfour0
Pink and Brown it is!
- hiten0
my CD at work here never uses a pantone book :( she mixes colour herself and using them and then when i try and use mine she says I dont need it. Shes crazy! So I dont use it I have to look at it when shes not around. Last week she was on vacation so i took the week to actually keep it on my desk...she sends me stuff to print all the time and her greens are all very yellow so i change them to pantones when shes not looking. I should just send it but then i feel bad for the client. this is a true story believe it or not.
canuck II i think you know.
- hiten0
shes also said anyone can program its alot easier then designing. you cant teach design she said.
- paraselene0
sounds like she belongs in the design = big ego thread...
- hiten0
she also doesnt think browsers display website differently...... :(
I might start a my CD thread and mention all the igorant things that happen
- kuttyranks0
This woman is obviously mental
- kuttyranks0
This woman is obviously mental
- kelpie0
haha, I can't believe you double posted that double posted that.
- horton0
are you unhappy with the 1505 conversion to CMYK as it appears on screen, or do you actually have a printed sample that isn't matching?
there are so many subtle shifts in the PMS color range, the formulas are actually very acurate. if you look at the make-up of 1505, you'll actually notice it has a lot of white in it (1/ 1 ornage/ transp white). you can see the white more in the uncoated chip. so that's why its a 75%Y or whatever you quoted.
- hiten0
heres another one...i was working and designing a site in photoshop. She asked me why I was designing in PS I said its a website that what I use. She said PHOTOSHOP is for photos...layout should be done in illustrator and its easier and fast to move things around. That again is a true story.