flash vs.html 4 clients
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- socialstudy
how do you give them the rundown of their differences???
- ********0
I say, flash I can do a little
html I can't do at all
- ********0
Show them would be easiest. Research the clients market and show them good and bad examples of both.
- nooner0
don't tell them about html
- Jnr_Madison0
I'd say call the whole thing off.
- joyride0
most of my clients are stupid, i need to say flash is the stuff that moves all around and is all animated (while swinging my arms like a monkey) and html is just static. They usually go oh ok i know what your talking about...
then they say we want flash...
I say, it's more expensivethen they say we want html =(
- visualplane0
Have Lisa Loeb come in a thong
- ********0
and then I try to talk them out of an intro with music
- joyride0
true true... why do they all want intro music. I new client wants a rotating logo... I told him, well, thats would bring your site to 1999, I'm thinking of going more modern then that... but if thats what you want i'll do it.
- ********0
I remember the days when you could buy software just for making logos spin. Happy days.
- madirish0
anoother critical point to bring up with the client is search engine accessability w/ a FLash site. if the whole thing is dynamic-driven, not really an issue as much. if not and is justa bunch of sequential movies, good by access to the site from any ranking, searches, ect for the most part.
- ********0
why not an issue in dynamic-driven--shit for both?
- joyride0
I've never had a hard time talking people into a hybrid site. html (xhtml) w/ flash components. Its the best of both worlds...
- madirish0
well, depending on the data-architecture for the dynamic loading, all that data can be written to dynamically generate a cached version as meta data, ect, ect. this is mostly dependant on your CMS or scipting language in place. it is not simple, which = cheap, but it is done. and by 'dynamic' i am not refferring to a simple XML file used to pull text across. could be, but there would need to be a cached file generated as well and residing somewhere for the spiders to refernece.
*whew, ends geekness for a bit...
- madirish0
could not agree more. a rad styleesheet displayed site full of or sparingly used flash elements i would argue is infinitly more engaging (specifically given the budgets 99% of the time) than a full flash site.
- joyride0
true... now I'm personally liken' the AJAX style of sites. I need to do more with it... but this day job always gets in the way... This job would be great if it wern't for the fucking customers... (what movie?)
Didn't o'reily come out with a book on AJAX?
- imakedesign0
hmm.. this cms thing is intresting.. i have xml files generated from a cms which is then pulled into flash. does this mean the search engines will pick up the xml files?
- ********0
curious--does all of the content come from the xml, or just part of it?
- imakedesign0
all text content.
- joyride0
no... the search engine spyders can only link to stuff they see or are somehow linked to in things they can read. As far as I know, the xml request is in flash which won't be read by the spyder.
I did the same thing. On the main page I have a little flash box that grabs the xml and reads and displays the titles of the top 4 recent articles. It then links to the articles. It's pretty easy stuff
- ********0
so you use it as a way of managing content yourself, as much as a way of having the client do it?