Ruby on Rails
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- ants
Hey all,
Anyone here gotten into Ruby on Rails? I'm just looking at it now ( http://www.rubyonrails.org/ ) and it seems quite interesting.
I can do PHP stuff but I'm no expert by any means, is this a viable option for programming online?
Humour my puny brain :)
- unfittoprint0
highly suspicious of 'coding without code'... enough for a basic programmer, but not enough if you want to engage in some serious tweaking... imho.
anyway is an interesting post @ slashdot made a couple days ago...
- bradpitt0
backpack is written in ruby on rails.
- ants0
mmmmm backpackit
- -sputnik-0
i posted a ruby on rails demo a few days ago but can't find it now. looks pretty interesting.
- ants0
yeah I'm taking a look at the demos now :)
http://www.rubyonrails.org/scree…
maybe I'll be able to make that cool web app that I've been thinking of making... I'm so not a programmer though I gotta get my head down and LEARN.
- -sputnik-0
you can do it!!
- ants0
are you sure you don't want to do it for me for free? I'll give you a cool link on the bottom site that says "made by sputnik" then everyone will think you're cool and they'll give you money.
;)
- unfittoprint0
check http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ before rails.
otherwise will be like hacking the Linux Kernel without ever having programmed in C++.
- ants0
sweet. doing it now :)
- ants0
I think starting : http://www.rubygarden.org/ruby?R… here is a good idea...
I sure am a rubynuby.
- ok_jason0
Ruby on Rails is more than a easy to use framework, in fact it is not easy to install nor easy to harness all of its capabilites.
Basically, it uses the Active Record pattern to encapsulate database access and table relations. It then use run time meta-coding to produce the code needed to drive a site. This is my limited understanding on it.
After installing it and playing with it for a couple of months, I recently found Qcodo. It is a PHP implementation of Active Record Patterns and seems to have more promise for our company. Ruby is an ugly language to the eye, but super OO. Even more than Java. PHP5 on the other hand is familiar and much easier to find hosting for.
ok. thats my two cents. just saw unfit's comment and thought it was misleading..it is way way more powerful then some tool to help you do simple things. It is a fundemental shift in the way application programming can be done for websites and online apps.
- ok_jason0
opps. I did not realize that unfit was quoting the Ruby on Rails site.
also, the Qcodo site is:
- ants0
thanks Ok_Jason :D your comments are helpful!
I'm just doing my first tutorial on it
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onla…
seems awesome so far :) but hey... I'm just a small guy
- nRIK0
It is a PHP implementation of Active Record Patterns and seems to have more promise for our company. Ruby is an ugly language to the eye, but super OO. Even more than Java. PHP5 on the other hand is familiar and much easier to find hosting for.
ok_jason
(Dec 22 05, 17:18)just checked out one of the demo vids - and Qcodo looks very promising as well.
The setup is fast+easy, and after taking an OO approach for a PHP app I did a couple months ago, i know how frustrating the mundane repetitive code can get everytime i had to create another object, etc. Its harder when PHP isnt truly an OO language - spent alot of time debugging. The structur of Qcodo also shows a better design model in order to understand the implementation of OO design in PHP.
im definitely going to try and learn both, as I know there are benefits to both approaches, and will probably be useful in the future
thanks again for the links/info :)
- flavorful0
I sure am a rubynuby.
ants
(Dec 22 05, 15:36)Hahaha.
How's it treating you thus far?