Estimate
- Started 20 years ago
- Last post 20 years ago
- 21 Responses
- arthur
My wife's uncle is a physician and just received a bid for a site he wants made. he came to me because he thought the bd was high. I'm not a designer but thought I would pass his question along. Please let me know how this sounds to you.
He wants a 20-30 page static html site made that focuses on breast disease. The audience is other physicians, and while design is important to the site, it need not be cutting edge in any way. It is text-heavy, information-based, and needs to load quickly. All the pages will have a similar design.
He was quoted $18,000 for the job. The design company also wants to retain the copyright and will sell the copyright to him at an additional 30%, totalling $23,400.
He's a good guy, does important work, and I want to help him out. Is this a reasonable bid?
- mg330
I have very little experience in this area, but $18,000 for a static, text heavy site, sounds like way too much money.
If he wanted a simple banner, and a table of contents styled navigation, with pages of text, in all honesty that doesn't even sound like the kind of thing that could break $2,000.
Sounds like a site that, after graphics were done, could be created in a day.
- ethios0
That sounds a little extortionate to me. I have never actually designed a site to those requirements and so have never priced it up myself, but still it seems a little over the odds
- mrdobolina0
send him my contact info, I will do it for 2 grand.
- ethios0
damn you beat me to the chase mrdobolina...
- jdcomba0
sounds like a lot. someone on here will jump on that.
- _salisae_0
you're going to want someone with boobs to do this. mrdobs is your man.
- mrdobolina0
I have awesome boobs.
- sherman0
thats a crazzy ass quote.
$3000-4000 max
- ethios0
any word on who the agency was?
- mrdobolina0
Dewey, Cheatem and Howe
- shellie0
I think 4,500 is fair. As long as you give him only 3 designs and 1 round of revisions to a comp that he choses.. extra design is hourly from there.
AND, he has to give you final copy. any copy changes needed after he gives you all the word docs should be hourly.
the only thing with sites like that, is that he can go on and on forever with copy changes. seems easy but can be a big royal pain.
I did a super simple travel agency site once that was a nightmare at the end because of stuff like that... going back and fourth on pictures and text and formatting. I put it in as is from their documents and even told them "im not a copy writer or copy editor. that's not included in this cost so any of that is charged hourly"
i swear we went around in circles for months and months... and wouldnt launch it until it was perfect which screwed me on getting my final cheque when i wanted it.
sometimes its worth padding a little when it comes to dealing with people who dont understand websites. they think changes sometimes take no time at all, when in fact it'll take you a day or two to make a designc hange globally across a site that you've already built out even.
fuckers.
- BarryWhiteZombi0
Some of you guys work really cheap. 18,000 does sound high but for 20-30 pages even if it is text (which probably isnt just paragraph after paragraph) needs to be designed and formated (tables etc..), time for meetings, revisions, etc... it would probably come out to about 7-10,000 for a firm and 6-8,000 for an individual.
in my opinion
p.s. Im glad to see there are other nerdy car talk listeners out there.
- unclesize0
$20,000 certainly sounds too high for what you've described. Is it possible the job scope you've described here is any different than what the agency scoped? Does he need DB and application work too? Does he need logo, branding and other collateral?
Seems weird an agency would bid that high on what you've described...UNLESS (and this happens) I've worked for agencies that purposely bid way too high cause they don't really want the project. Then if the client accepts then they're happy to do it for way too much money.
- fate_0
BarryWhiteZombi, maybe you just suck at design.
This project shouldn't take more than a week. $2000 is pretty good loot for that time span.
- forcetwelve0
far too much - i'd say about $5000 (US?) would still be too much.
easy to do but as shellie says - will never end with text changes etc.
make sure the client understands that they are paying for the design and initial text only. anything after this initial launch will be on an hourly basis. always makes them concentrate and think before ordering changes i've found.
- mrdobolina0
I agree fate, one freelancer could bang this out quick with plenty of hours to spare for revisions. if it is just a straight html brochure-style site.
- mrdobolina0
text changes are simple, just send me another word doc. I work up news stories at work that come to me in word docs in 1 minute. As far as formatting goes, use css and it would be simple to make global changes really quickly.
- mrdobolina0
you could do the entire site in contribute and let them make their own copy changes very easily. and could also charge a bit of a premium for that.
- arthur0
Thanks for the advice everyone. I thought $18,000 was a bit insane.
- arthur0
Is anyone familiar with the copyright setup? I didn't know designers wanted to keep copyright.
As an illustrator, I keep all my copyrights, but maybe it's not so different.