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- discipler0
and unfitt, it's a growing post-modern world...
...wherein people are realizing that the so called "enlightment" philosophies of 150 + years ago just don't satisfy the longings of the soul.
- ********0
Sin denied the women her rightful place in society. ..
discipler
(Aug 2 05, 14:43)
My grandma would be really really mad at you.
woodyBatts
(Aug 2 05, 14:52)
-----------------------I have Discipler blocked. He didn't really say that, did he? About sin/womenfolk?
- woodyBatts0
he totally did yo!
I totally couldn't belive it, I mean like for eating an apple man the whole world is fucked...FOR AN APPLE!
- Fariska0
and unfitt, it's a growing post-modern world...
...wherein people are realizing that the so called "enlightment" philosophies of 150 + years ago just don't satisfy the longings of the soul.
discipler
(Aug 2 05, 14:53)Right, let's all became scientologists!
- ********0
he totally did yo!
I totally couldn't belive it, I mean like for eating an apple man the whole world is fucked...FOR AN APPLE!
woodyBatts
(Aug 2 05, 15:01)according to some fanatic windows users the world is still fucked thanks to Apple™
- ********0
Gee, I don't know..the Enlightenment philosophies suit me just fine. Especially because I don't believe in a state known as "sin" which separates humanity from a supposing loving god. Seems like a religion conceived by an eleven year old...or someone in need of some sense of gauranteed security...but being an Enlightenment kinda guy, to paraphrase Jefferson, believe what you want as long as it doesn't break my leg or pick my pocket...
(I think teaching the Bible in publically funded school is picking my pocket by the way...)
- mrdobolina0
if you look at wikipedia, it cites sources allover the place.
your "scientists" are working backwards.
were adam and eve black?
- mrdobolina0
another thing, you said two organisms of the same genus can reproduce. so you do believe some science, but you pick and choose what you believe because of the bible?
dude the earth is older than the bible says.
- ********0
sorry, wrong thread
- ********0
'...the longings of the soul'
Disclipler..Ah the eternal 'void' across which man stares into a a self-created illusion called The Abyss, a conceptual noman's land, the junction of where our ideas and experience of ourselves end, and our ideas of creation and the world around us begin..
The longing of the soul, our notion that we are separate and distinct from the world and the creative process that brought us here. We define nature as that which is non-human, and so deny ourselves our rightful place in the world, without realising that even the act of thinking this is the most natural and highest most complex form that this nature has taken. We exclude ourselves from the model of the universe in which everything else seems to have a natural place, free from the existential angsts and conceptual traps we set for ourselves.
We label what we do not understand as 'not understandable', remarkably, and in doing so elevate the role of our imited conceptual understanding to the higest truth.
The very human act of attempting to catagorise and quantify our experience is the very thing that highlights its fallability. To attempt to meta-conceptualise the rest and' invoke a deity' to plug the gaps in our language and understanding is the intellectual equivalent of simply calling it 'et cetera', and is utterly without merit.
Religion is therefore by definition a band-aid to real thinking, an ad-hoc filling of the gaps, and will constantly therefore have to redefine itself as real knowledge continues to expand, eventually evaporating as it backs into quantum and number theories, neuroscience and cosmology.
- ********0
What Rand said.
- pocho0
I wonder what Bush's goto Science Guy had to say after hearing Bush today. This is what he said before:
The White House's chief scientist stated point blank, "Intelligent Design is not a scientific theory." And that's not all -- as if to ram the point home, Marburger soon continued, "I don't regard Intelligent Design as a scientific topic."
- yarsrevenge0
where miracles
[in a growing secular world]
were downgraded
from divine wrath
to apparitions in toasts.Roman Catholicism borrows symbols and sees Mary in cheese...
___________________easy there the both of you... don't cast your stones if you know nothing about the true teaching of catholicism ... so before you try to blame catholicism or any religion for a molestation case, fanatical breaded visuals or political injustices... at least understand that there is and always will be corruption to some degree anywhere you look... even in places you thought were safest. Ulimately it IS the evil (sin) to be blamed... not the teachings of true Christianity.
- yarsrevenge0
Hate on Christianity in a nut shell:
God gave us rules on how to live a proper life... people took these rules upon themselves and allowed evil/sin to tempt them and do otherwise. Then others eventually said God must be evil and his teachings are BS.
- discipler0
The Dissent List.
http://www.discovery.org/scripts…
(10 page PDF list)
...and the number keeps growing. :)
- ********0
God gave us rules on how to live a proper life...
-----------------------------Seems like a cruel joke that god gave different rules to different people and then let them loose in the same sand box, don't you think?
- ********0
There's two sides to every coin
- mrdobolina0
well, if it is about creation, there are many sides.
- discipler0
not really, dobs. Just two sides and they only differ on the "when", not the "how". Unless you are speaking of the creation myths of world religions.
Don't forget that there's plenty of debate within the naturalist camp.